radar detector

[bert wouda]

Are there any MX 'ers , who do have experience with a Radar detector in a MX 5
...?

Bert

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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:59:23 +1200 (NZST)
From: Tony Spellacey <tonebeats@yahoo.co.nz>
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Bert the best radar detector available on todays
market is DRIVE AT THE CORRECT SPEED LIMIT AND SAFELY
i dont encourge speeding,save the speed for organized club days at the track.
--- bert wouda <wouda@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

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[bert wouda]

You'll right Tony,... and I " try " to be a law abiding persona
... but it's sooooooooo difficult to drive excactly 50 - 70 or 100 km
...and now, 5 km over it and you have a costly ticket !!!

B.
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:48:06 +1200 (NZST)
From: Tony Spellacey <tonebeats@yahoo.co.nz>
Subject: Re: radar detector
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Apparantly Bert Valantine detectors are meant to be Bs
knees you can pay up to 1000 bucks,MAYBE a few bucks
on a cruise control would be cheaper and safer for
all.
--- bert wouda <wouda@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

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[Okibi]

Bert,

I'm sure you'd rather watch the road and other drivers around you than worry
if your speedo is creeping a fraction over the limit. Bad driving causes a
lot more accidents then speeding.

Additionally modern radar detectors also get signals sent to them that warn
about road works, hazards, accidents etc.

Another added bonus is that many motorists slow about 10km/h below the speed
limit as they pass a speed camera because they get paranoid about their
speedometers accuracy. All there cars slowing can actually create accidents,
you'll be at less risk because you'll be expecting the cars ahead to be
slowing suddenly (and while you probably follow at a safe distance, it gives
you time to break slower when you have some idiot following too close).

Sooo .. instead of throwing herrings at you I'll try and be a little more
helpful.

I use a Bell Vector here in Australia. It's great for the side mounted radar
guns our police use in the country areas, but it's not very good for the
"multinova" cameras around. It also works great for "laser" speed guns, but
by the time they've "hit" your car and your detector goes off the police
have already recorded your speed.

The newer Bell models are meant to be a lot better, and can be bought very
cheaply on ebay but just make sure they're compatible with the types of
Speed Cameras they use in New Zealand.

Do you have permanent speed cameras in NZ? Some units have a built in GPS
and you can teach it where the permanent cameras are and they'll warn you
before you reach them.

- Dave.

[lyndonp]

If the LTSA's top priority is road safety, shouldn't they be stopping
dangerous speeders rather than photographing them?

[bert wouda]

Thanks Dave (AUS ) for your excellent reply ,


I just did get some info from a company in Wellington "Radar Direct "
Lower Hutt ...0800 472327 (for the maybe buyers ) ... with full
testing facilities to test modificaties and software programming etc,etc

He is selling rated no 1 detector in the NZ Auto magazine " Valentine
1 gold radar detector " for NZ $ 1195 .-

it detects everything from a 3-3.5 km distance >> except FIXED speed
cameras << ... and an other model with a slightly less distance
detection for NZ $ 895.- ... just as good

maybe worth to invest in one of these ??? ... it's also portable to
another car .

so I'm going to do some more homework the next week , and hope to get a
good deal somewhere .

BERT

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[EricW]

The thing to remember with a radar detector is that it can only detect a
device which is switched on, (obvious really). This means that a device such
as a Hawk, which has a small ground pulse and an "instant on" mode for the
main detector, would get you before you had time to react to the warning
when the Hawk is used in "standby/ instant on", mode, unless you were lucky
enough to detect the ground pulse, and you would only do that on a straight.

A "Smith Mini Gun" or similar, which are Laser devices, will get you long
before you get them. It is simply "point and shoot" Laser works at the
speed of light, they will have read your speed 100 times before the alarm
even goes off. They are hard to detect, as their signal is so concentrated.

I have yet to be convinced that any detector accurately detects laser speed
cameras early enough to be of value, they fire a very fine beam obliquely
across the road and the signal does not "splatter" like radar. Fixed cameras
cannot be detected, because they are completely passive.

Still, if you want to pay for your speeding "up front", that's your choice.
But detectors are only really effective against fixed radar, despite what
the vendors claim.

I guess that $1295 would pay for about 16 x "11k over" offences. At my
current rate of collecting speeding tickets, the thing would pay for itself
in about 131 years. If you collect them faster than that, maybe it is a
worth while investment. But maybe you would also want to look at how you are
driving.

I am no angel, I own a couple of quite fast cars, drive 60,000k each year
and, just occassionally, I tend not to hang around. Having that level of
exposure and having picked up 5 speeding tickets (including one at 115k, one
at 38MPH and three at 61k) in over 40 years and about 2.5 Million Km, I
conclude, and my experience as a cop bears me out, that you have to try
slightly harder in order to get a ticket. So if you are getting enough to
justify this level of expenditure, SLOW DOWN!

I know the Police do not warn as often as we used to, but, even in my day,
fitting a Radar Detector automatically disqualified you from copping a
kindly warning when a ticket was justified. I imagine the attitude has not
changed.

Regards

Eric

[Ken McNoe]

Once again, the voice of reason!!! =)

Also, unfortunately, they have yet to invent a radar detector that
prevents injuries from high speed impacts... or mops up after the
incident...

Guess it might be a good idea to slow down till this gets off the
production line. =)

Ken McNoe

Phone: 09 483 8237
Mobile: 021 536 911

[Okibi]

More info on the Valentine here:


https://store.valentine1.com/home.asp


- Dave.