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Post by MadMaz » Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:01 pm

Hi Dave

I hear what you're saying, but I'm sticking to my guns on this one.

If you want to drive fast, take it to the track - that's the message.

High speed on public roads, glamorised by movies such as "The Fast & The
Furious" and some items featured on regular TV shows like "Top Gear" is
just not acceptable anymore.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not PC - anything but. What has really stirred me
on this one is the death of that motorcyclist I told you about a little
while ago. Because he was speeding and crossed the centre line running into
a 4 by 4 coming the other way. His injuries, as told to me by the police,
were horrific.

On the track, cars are going one way, in a controlled environment made as
safe as possible for high speed driving - and test days are regularly
advertised for the public to come on in, go through the introductory process
and go try their hand. That's the way to do it and have a great time.

Glamorising excessive speed on public roads is just not cricket.

Cheers
Mark
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Post by Darryl Curran » Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:30 pm

but then again driving normaly on public roads has proven to be just as
dangerous.
More people die while driving within the stated law (regarding speed), than
those from speeding and with just as horific results.
Put it this way, more people are pushing up daisies from accidents they
caused while driving at or below posted speedlimits than there are people
from driving over the postedspeed limits. Dont get confused with driver
faster than the conditions allowed and posted speed limit. Some people
confuse accidents where people have driven too fast for the condions and
speeding, there is a difference.

The only reason people dont see these things as acceptible anymore is
because we are becoming a bubble wrap nation. Its getting to that stage that
one day rugby will be banned because of the potential of injury. Its getting
very pathetic when we cant see something glamerised on tv for fear every man
and his dog will try to emulate what they have seen. Funny that, I havent
seen too many people try to fly planes into tall buildings lately.

if you think people are going to drive like leepers just because they saw it
on tv, then you dont show much trust in people. If it were the case, we
would see more rapes, murders and mass shootings with machine guns than we
do thanks the the 6 oclock news. BUT, we dont because most people arent
that simple minded pied piper followers.

Darryl Curran

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Post by Darryl Curran » Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:30 pm

but then again driving normaly on public roads has proven to be just as
dangerous.
More people die while driving within the stated law (regarding speed), than
those from speeding and with just as horific results.
Put it this way, more people are pushing up daisies from accidents they
caused while driving at or below posted speedlimits than there are people
from driving over the postedspeed limits. Dont get confused with driver
faster than the conditions allowed and posted speed limit. Some people
confuse accidents where people have driven too fast for the condions and
speeding, there is a difference.

The only reason people dont see these things as acceptible anymore is
because we are becoming a bubble wrap nation. Its getting to that stage that
one day rugby will be banned because of the potential of injury. Its getting
very pathetic when we cant see something glamerised on tv for fear every man
and his dog will try to emulate what they have seen. Funny that, I havent
seen too many people try to fly planes into tall buildings lately.

if you think people are going to drive like leepers just because they saw it
on tv, then you dont show much trust in people. If it were the case, we
would see more rapes, murders and mass shootings with machine guns than we
do thanks the the 6 oclock news. BUT, we dont because most people arent
that simple minded pied piper followers.

Darryl Curran

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Post by Colin » Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:48 pm

Sums it up for me I think.

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Post by Colin » Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:48 pm

Sums it up for me I think.

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Post by MadMaz » Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:48 pm

Hi Darryl

Yes I agree with your road death ratios, but speed certainly
does add significantly to the annual list of fatalities. Check out the
following link:

http://www.transport.govt.nz/business/l ... .php#facts

Fortunately not everybody copies what they see on films and TV, but an
increasing segment of the population does - ask the Manukau police.

The bottom line of what I've said is: Excessive speed on public roads does
kill. Speed belongs on the track.

Cheers
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Post by Colin » Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:49 pm

Sums it up for me I think.

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Post by Colin » Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:49 pm

Sums it up for me I think.

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Post by Okibi » Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:05 pm

Ok .. lets not go getting fact and fiction confused, "Fast and Furious" is a
movie, to see a GOOD car movie hire the original Mad Max.

As for glamorised by movies such as "The Fast & The Furious",

OR .. King of the Mountain, Vanishing Point, Cannonball Run, Dukes of
Hazard, The Wraith, Gone in 60 Seconds .. damn them for turning all the
baby-boomers into hoons !

It's a good thing younger drivers have crumple zones, air bags and police
with speeed cameras to save them from this constant threat on public roads.

Kids these days have to stick bright lights and stickers on their cars so
these old hoons with vanishing vision (and hair) can see them as they blast
past at a rate of knots. ;)

It seems everyone gets on the "speeding" bandwagon because it's spoon fed in
the media but less people campaign and speak out against the quality of
roads, lack of proper driver training.

Why? Because there's money to be made in catching drivers speeding, the
government wants everyone to support the police acting out their policies.

Make no mistakes, the faster you go, the more damage you will do.

We have 2 guys both lucky to be alive after a major MX-5 accident last year,
the photos (just of the car) were nasty enough to make you feel sick.

Excessive speed isn't safe on public roads (although those guys probably
weren't speeding) there just needs to be an acceptable buffer so people can
concentrate more on the road than their speedo.

I wish better driver training, basic first aid courses and motorsport venues
were available to all drivers and bank balances because you soon learn how
quickly things can go wrong at speed and thus makes you slow down on public
roads.

To return to the original thread;

I've watched a lot or Top Gear and Fifth Gear, I can't remember seeing them
do a "high speed" run on public roads, if you watch the other traffic,
they're not blasting past them at twice the speed.

If you want a comparison look at the latest Gumball3000 DVD - THAT is
dangerous!

Which episode were people talking about? I'll have to watch it again.

- Dave.
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Post by Okibi » Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:05 pm

Ok .. lets not go getting fact and fiction confused, "Fast and Furious" is a
movie, to see a GOOD car movie hire the original Mad Max.

As for glamorised by movies such as "The Fast & The Furious",

OR .. King of the Mountain, Vanishing Point, Cannonball Run, Dukes of
Hazard, The Wraith, Gone in 60 Seconds .. damn them for turning all the
baby-boomers into hoons !

It's a good thing younger drivers have crumple zones, air bags and police
with speeed cameras to save them from this constant threat on public roads.

Kids these days have to stick bright lights and stickers on their cars so
these old hoons with vanishing vision (and hair) can see them as they blast
past at a rate of knots. ;)

It seems everyone gets on the "speeding" bandwagon because it's spoon fed in
the media but less people campaign and speak out against the quality of
roads, lack of proper driver training.

Why? Because there's money to be made in catching drivers speeding, the
government wants everyone to support the police acting out their policies.

Make no mistakes, the faster you go, the more damage you will do.

We have 2 guys both lucky to be alive after a major MX-5 accident last year,
the photos (just of the car) were nasty enough to make you feel sick.

Excessive speed isn't safe on public roads (although those guys probably
weren't speeding) there just needs to be an acceptable buffer so people can
concentrate more on the road than their speedo.

I wish better driver training, basic first aid courses and motorsport venues
were available to all drivers and bank balances because you soon learn how
quickly things can go wrong at speed and thus makes you slow down on public
roads.

To return to the original thread;

I've watched a lot or Top Gear and Fifth Gear, I can't remember seeing them
do a "high speed" run on public roads, if you watch the other traffic,
they're not blasting past them at twice the speed.

If you want a comparison look at the latest Gumball3000 DVD - THAT is
dangerous!

Which episode were people talking about? I'll have to watch it again.

- Dave.
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Post by Okibi » Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:09 pm

Yep can't have an accident without "speed" even if it's just 1km/h.

I'd love to see that % of those car were traveling OVER the speed limit.

And what % of those could have been avoided if the roads or cars were
properly maintained.

- Dave.

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I agree with Mark. Speed belongs on the track.

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Post by Okibi » Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:09 pm

Yep can't have an accident without "speed" even if it's just 1km/h.

I'd love to see that % of those car were traveling OVER the speed limit.

And what % of those could have been avoided if the roads or cars were
properly maintained.

- Dave.

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I agree with Mark. Speed belongs on the track.

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Post by joanie » Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:23 pm

Any idiot can go flat out in a straight line with plenty of horses under the
bonnet. The true test of skill is how fast can you go around the corners. On
most windy roads in NZ one won't get anywhere near breaking the speed
limit.. But in saying that - the most fun is definitely on the track where
you have a more controlled environment, and if you do cock it up, a good
chance of not doing to much damage to yourself or anyone else...
I wonder...will Taupo be as much fun now that its longer and faster???
Looking forward to finding out :-)
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Post by joanie » Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:23 pm

Any idiot can go flat out in a straight line with plenty of horses under the
bonnet. The true test of skill is how fast can you go around the corners. On
most windy roads in NZ one won't get anywhere near breaking the speed
limit.. But in saying that - the most fun is definitely on the track where
you have a more controlled environment, and if you do cock it up, a good
chance of not doing to much damage to yourself or anyone else...
I wonder...will Taupo be as much fun now that its longer and faster???
Looking forward to finding out :-)
Joan H

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Post by Darryl Curran » Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:33 pm

Eactly David, saying speed is a contributing factor is the
governments/Police way of glorifying the issue so they have cause for the
over policing of speed on our roads, which in return gives them a reason to
collect millions of dollars in revenue.
If NZ is anything like Australia (we do take their models for most of our
rules) then some of the circomstances that add an accident to the "speed a
contributing factor" are pathetic and simply there to add to the statistics
for the Goerge W Bush like reasoning for attack. I am not going to go into
it but Motor magazine had an article with many senarios that would put speed
as a contributing factor despite speeds being below the posted speed limits
which is as I said a bullshit way of glofying the facts.

As for Fast and the Furious, unlike Madmax, at least F&TF was based on real
cars and a real culture, certainly not the best movie in the world but a bit
more relistic than mad max.

No movie turned anyone into hoons, revolution did that, along with the hot
rodders who started the whole street racing culture, now funnily, they are
the same generation blaming the road toll on the youth.

I dont condone street racing at all, but put the blame for the road toll
where it belongs, and thats the governments lack of fixing the real issues,
driver licencing, its too easy, lack of realy training requiring actual car
control, and to a small extent, our roads (you cant blame the roads as yu
should always drive to the conditions).
The only thing the govn. have right, is the faster you go, the bigger the
mes, but thats only if you do actual have a mess in the first place.


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Post by Darryl Curran » Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:33 pm

Eactly David, saying speed is a contributing factor is the
governments/Police way of glorifying the issue so they have cause for the
over policing of speed on our roads, which in return gives them a reason to
collect millions of dollars in revenue.
If NZ is anything like Australia (we do take their models for most of our
rules) then some of the circomstances that add an accident to the "speed a
contributing factor" are pathetic and simply there to add to the statistics
for the Goerge W Bush like reasoning for attack. I am not going to go into
it but Motor magazine had an article with many senarios that would put speed
as a contributing factor despite speeds being below the posted speed limits
which is as I said a bullshit way of glofying the facts.

As for Fast and the Furious, unlike Madmax, at least F&TF was based on real
cars and a real culture, certainly not the best movie in the world but a bit
more relistic than mad max.

No movie turned anyone into hoons, revolution did that, along with the hot
rodders who started the whole street racing culture, now funnily, they are
the same generation blaming the road toll on the youth.

I dont condone street racing at all, but put the blame for the road toll
where it belongs, and thats the governments lack of fixing the real issues,
driver licencing, its too easy, lack of realy training requiring actual car
control, and to a small extent, our roads (you cant blame the roads as yu
should always drive to the conditions).
The only thing the govn. have right, is the faster you go, the bigger the
mes, but thats only if you do actual have a mess in the first place.


Darryl Curran

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Post by Colin » Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:47 pm

It is very clear from this link that speeding and excessive speed are
defined as going too fast for the conditions.


It surly isnt hard to grasp that someone coming into your lane at 90kph
will kill you just as easily as 110kph. It isnt the speed . It is the
inattention and lack of focus. You are as dead hitting a power pole at 80kph
as you are at any other speed!


Any one would prefer to have attentive, awake drivers in machines that are
maintained well coming towards them at 120ks than overloaded vans with
tired drivers and as Eric rightly points out too low pressures for the
loading. Lurching over all the lanes.


A strip of white paint wont save anyone at any speed. If you stay on you
own side and others do the same then any speed is safe.

Its the crossing that does it every time.

The stats also support the argument that a small proportion only of deaths
occur at speeds over the posted limit.

Making the limit lower and thinking that it will stop the non thinking
drivers from arriving in your lane: is head in the sand stuff.

It doesnt do anything to make the roads safer.


And that gentle men is a fact. The police think it is too.


You can probably tell, good driving from thinking drivers is a passion .
Sorry if I go over the top a bit.

Many of us have seen friends die on roadsides and the results of others
disregard for safety.

It just annoys me when it always blamed on speed and speeders.

Crap driving skills are crap skills at any speed and will kill at any speed.


Please dont think too badly of me. I am not like this about everything.


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Post by Colin » Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:47 pm

It is very clear from this link that speeding and excessive speed are
defined as going too fast for the conditions.


It surly isnt hard to grasp that someone coming into your lane at 90kph
will kill you just as easily as 110kph. It isnt the speed . It is the
inattention and lack of focus. You are as dead hitting a power pole at 80kph
as you are at any other speed!


Any one would prefer to have attentive, awake drivers in machines that are
maintained well coming towards them at 120ks than overloaded vans with
tired drivers and as Eric rightly points out too low pressures for the
loading. Lurching over all the lanes.


A strip of white paint wont save anyone at any speed. If you stay on you
own side and others do the same then any speed is safe.

Its the crossing that does it every time.

The stats also support the argument that a small proportion only of deaths
occur at speeds over the posted limit.

Making the limit lower and thinking that it will stop the non thinking
drivers from arriving in your lane: is head in the sand stuff.

It doesnt do anything to make the roads safer.


And that gentle men is a fact. The police think it is too.


You can probably tell, good driving from thinking drivers is a passion .
Sorry if I go over the top a bit.

Many of us have seen friends die on roadsides and the results of others
disregard for safety.

It just annoys me when it always blamed on speed and speeders.

Crap driving skills are crap skills at any speed and will kill at any speed.


Please dont think too badly of me. I am not like this about everything.


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Post by TwinkleNoze » Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:53 pm

I'm just going to say, that compared to roads in other countries, NZ roads
are appalling. Course chip seal, bad camber, bumps, potholes and cracks.
However, I'm not blaming it on the roads solely, driver education is also a
big thing.

I come from Norway, most of our roads are covered in ice and snow for at
least 4 months of the year, ie driving conditions are less than optimal, yet
Norway has less road deaths than NZ (289 I think, in 2005)

Then again driver education in Norway is strict, you can't drive on your own
until you're 18 and there is no such thing as a learners licence. Either you
passed the (rigorous) licence test or you didn't. Most teens in Norway learn
to drive at a driving school, since they have the highest pass rate (as in
teens being taught by their mom or dad or whoever tend to pick up on the
teachers' fault, and flunk once they sit an exam or take the physical
drivers test)

I just couldn't believe it when I moved here (7.5 years ago) and found out
how easy it is to get your drivers licence here... and at such a young age.

My tuppence worth anyway ;-)

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Post by TwinkleNoze » Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:53 pm

I'm just going to say, that compared to roads in other countries, NZ roads
are appalling. Course chip seal, bad camber, bumps, potholes and cracks.
However, I'm not blaming it on the roads solely, driver education is also a
big thing.

I come from Norway, most of our roads are covered in ice and snow for at
least 4 months of the year, ie driving conditions are less than optimal, yet
Norway has less road deaths than NZ (289 I think, in 2005)

Then again driver education in Norway is strict, you can't drive on your own
until you're 18 and there is no such thing as a learners licence. Either you
passed the (rigorous) licence test or you didn't. Most teens in Norway learn
to drive at a driving school, since they have the highest pass rate (as in
teens being taught by their mom or dad or whoever tend to pick up on the
teachers' fault, and flunk once they sit an exam or take the physical
drivers test)

I just couldn't believe it when I moved here (7.5 years ago) and found out
how easy it is to get your drivers licence here... and at such a young age.

My tuppence worth anyway ;-)

Nina

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Post by carl.halvorsen » Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:12 am

Have you noticed -

Anyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Anyone going slower than you is an idiot.

Carl.

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Post by carl.halvorsen » Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:12 am

Have you noticed -

Anyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Anyone going slower than you is an idiot.

Carl.

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Post by Vince » Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:49 pm

If its the Topgear from BBC World last week you'll probably find the "high
speed" bits JC was referring to were from Germany, where in some places on
the autobahn there is no speed limit, you can drive as fast as you feel
comfortable with, or faster, and theres no oncoming traffic. So he quite
likely was'nt breaking any laws, but thats not to say that I condone driving
at that speed on public roads, I'm just saying that it's quite legal. You
still have to drive to the conditions, and of course your own ability.
During our visit over there recently we saw first hand the carnage that can
result, but the one redeeming feature [if it can be called that] is that all
the traffic in the vicinity is travelling at a similar speed and in the same
direction. Vince

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if it's a chambered (non straight-thru) and/or < 2.5" exhaust it will
probably be super quiet with a turbo (yours is installed right?).
After the initial install and with the Mazdaspeed exhaust it was so
quiet all I could hear was the dash squeaking .

And a resonator or three will always calm things down a bit :)

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Post by Vince » Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:49 pm

If its the Topgear from BBC World last week you'll probably find the "high
speed" bits JC was referring to were from Germany, where in some places on
the autobahn there is no speed limit, you can drive as fast as you feel
comfortable with, or faster, and theres no oncoming traffic. So he quite
likely was'nt breaking any laws, but thats not to say that I condone driving
at that speed on public roads, I'm just saying that it's quite legal. You
still have to drive to the conditions, and of course your own ability.
During our visit over there recently we saw first hand the carnage that can
result, but the one redeeming feature [if it can be called that] is that all
the traffic in the vicinity is travelling at a similar speed and in the same
direction. Vince

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if it's a chambered (non straight-thru) and/or < 2.5" exhaust it will
probably be super quiet with a turbo (yours is installed right?).
After the initial install and with the Mazdaspeed exhaust it was so
quiet all I could hear was the dash squeaking .

And a resonator or three will always calm things down a bit :)

On 2/4/06, Chris Tankard <chris.tankard@aderant.com> wrote:
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Post by Ian » Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:31 pm

Vince...No, the piece I was referring to was some months back when he was
racing a ferry (with a fellow presenter on board). From memory, and I stand
to be corrected, he was driving through Belgium, Holland , late at night at
high speed, while admitting he could hardly keep his eyes open! = Great role
model!...the debate subsequently widened as to what constitutes dangerous
driving, excessive speed and the cause of accidents...
Personally I don't exceed 110kph on the open road, and corner quickly to
enjoy my MX5's handling... I trust few other driver's on the road, so drive
defensively. After a 30 year motorsport background , I have few things to
prove on the open road - the circuit is just down the road, so that is where
my racing is done... I just wish others thought along similar lines.

Cheers from sunny ChCh
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