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DIY turn signal intake

Post by MrGrey » Sun May 26, 2013 10:32 pm

this week I plan on having a crack at making my own turn signal intakes.
I will basically be using this as a guide:

http://www.diymiata.net/turn-signal-int ... ial-guide/

most of it is all straight forward but I have a few questions.....

1) is this bulb just a standard indicator replacement bulb? eg will I find it at my local supercheap autos?
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2) inside the turn signal housing there is also a normal white light (it lights up before you turn the headlights on(I have no idea what the correct name for this light is))...... would I be correct in assuming I can just remove this bulb and just terminate the wires so they wont short out on anything and it would work ok? or does this circuit require the bulb for the rest of the lighting to work? (the other option is to leave the bulb connected but cable-tie it out of sight (it would have the side effect of illuminating a little of the engine bay when turned on))


my basic plan is to follow the tutorial but I have a few tube of Selleys knead-it which i will use to nicely shape the intake vent and (fingers crossed) it should look ok.

worst case scenario I will pout, cry, stomp around like a petulant child then sigh and buy some aftermarket intakes. (those ones currently on trademe are what I am after, but I would like to try and save $$$ at the moment)

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Post by authentic » Sun May 26, 2013 10:53 pm

That 'normal white light' is called a Park Light. Those are legally required on vehicles in this country.

The TSIs on Trade Me (if you're referring to those red ones) only have an indicator bulb mounted in them. I was trying to buy some TSIs a while back, and found plenty of examples in the US but none had a park light, so they would have been illegal here without any modifications to add a park light somewhere else on the car. I eventually stumbled on some from a company called Joss Performance in the UK which had both park lights and indicators wired in.

You could always add daytime running lights somewhere to act as park lights, but 9 times out of 10 DRLs look like shit unless they came on the car from factory IMO.

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Post by MrGrey » Sun May 26, 2013 11:56 pm

oh man, thanks for the heads up.

I guess this project will go on the back burner for the moment then.

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Post by chris » Mon May 27, 2013 10:03 am

Idea.

If you are keen on the DIY Turnsignal intake.

I could mock up some plans for them tonight to include two bulbs?

Edit: Or, you could run your park light and indicator off the same circuit?

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Post by Angreal » Mon May 27, 2013 10:44 am

I would say to get some fleabay smoked indicators because they are super sexy but I don't want everyone else having them because it will make my car look less awesome.... :wink:

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Post by broomfish » Mon May 27, 2013 8:48 pm

authentic wrote:That 'normal white light' is called a Park Light. Those are legally required on vehicles in this country.

The TSIs on Trade Me (if you're referring to those red ones) only have an indicator bulb mounted in them. I was trying to buy some TSIs a while back, and found plenty of examples in the US but none had a park light, so they would have been illegal here without any modifications to add a park light somewhere else on the car. .
The USDM models have a single bulb but it is dual filament. The taiwanese replacements are the USM style and come with an orang bulb. They have a loom inluded that fits he JDM loom. No mods are required to make them legal as long as the corresponding loom is used.
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Post by tomtikki » Mon May 27, 2013 9:36 pm

I have a pair of clear indicator units -from the states if I remember- which didn't hav the parklight in them so I just put th park light bulb in the front/side refector.
Which has never been an issue & looks alright I think.

This subject has come up before:
http://www.mx5forum.co.nz/viewtopic.php?t=10395
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Post by authentic » Tue May 28, 2013 12:14 pm

broomfish wrote:The USDM models have a single bulb but it is dual filament. The taiwanese replacements are the USM style and come with an orang bulb. They have a loom inluded that fits he JDM loom. No mods are required to make them legal as long as the corresponding loom is used.
Oh right. So do they stay on for the park lights, but when you indicate they flash normally or something?

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Post by broomfish » Tue May 28, 2013 12:31 pm

Yes. the 5w filament lights up with the park light and the 21w filament lights up with the indicator.
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Post by MrGrey » Tue May 28, 2013 4:05 pm

Thank you for the info Broomfish, do you happen to know where could i get a set of these dual filament bulbs from? how much would I expect to pay for them?

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Post by broomfish » Tue May 28, 2013 5:05 pm

They are a standard bulb known as a '380'
normally they have a clear glass.
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I have a pair of the taiwanese lamps in stock and just checked the bulbs against the specs on Narva and Hella websites, and it seems neither of them do this bulb in orange.

I believe this is due to them being used pretty much only in USA vehicles.
This will create a problem for me if i blow a bulb in my front lamps as i have the taiwanese ones fitted.

From the checking i have done, Im pretty sure the part number is 1157NA,

i have now found them on trademe
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 997012.htm
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Post by MrGrey » Tue May 28, 2013 6:14 pm

thank you very much :)

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Post by WideOpenThrottle » Tue May 28, 2013 9:00 pm

And remember...for a WOF you need white park-lights but an amber indicator...so how will one bulb do both?
Am i missing something? or can park lights be like fog lights and be orange?...maybe!

Yup...they can be amber :D
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2.6(3) When operated, a forward-facing position-lamp fitted to a low
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Post by WideOpenThrottle » Tue May 28, 2013 9:11 pm

Just had a senior moment and remembered that my park-lights were amber before i changed them to white! :oops:
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Post by ch4ng » Tue May 28, 2013 9:19 pm

From the VIRM, Lighting. 4-5 Direction Indicator lamps

Points 17 A and C

Front indicators can be a pair of amber or white.
Side indicators must be amber

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Post by brownie » Tue May 28, 2013 11:50 pm

like these
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Post by WideOpenThrottle » Wed May 29, 2013 8:24 am

So...if you used a double filament amber bulb would the indicator show up sufficiently brighter than the park light at night? [or day if the park light is on]
And is it wof legal?
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Post by Angreal » Wed May 29, 2013 8:13 pm

WideOpenThrottle wrote:So...if you used a double filament amber bulb would the indicator show up sufficiently brighter than the park light at night? [or day if the park light is on]
And is it wof legal?
It does in my car. The park lights are as bright as the originals and the indicators are much brighter, like an indicator

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Post by WideOpenThrottle » Wed May 29, 2013 8:49 pm

Cheers angreal... :D I can see another project looming
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Post by brownie » Wed May 29, 2013 10:20 pm

i,m fairly sure there are 2 different filament brightness in them,
All i can say is when driving with the factory lights during the day,using your indicator,you can't really see them flashing when you pull up behind another car,With these lights ,you see it flashing,Alot more visible to other motorists as well,They are one of the smaller cars on the roads now days certainly lower than most,Need to be visible

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Post by Angreal » Thu May 30, 2013 10:45 am

Yep, there are 2 different filaments with 2 different brightnesses in my set.

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Post by MrGrey » Fri May 31, 2013 12:20 am

Angreal wrote:I would say to get some fleabay smoked indicators because they are super sexy but I don't want everyone else having them because it will make my car look less awesome.... :wink:
I assume you mean something like this?
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do you have any hassles with the police or WOF checks due to the tinting laws? I was going to pop some 20% dark smoke vinyl film on mine but it seems that's a no no and would get my wrist slapped for being naughty.

are aftermarket smoked lens like this legal?

I still want to do intakes, but have put that on the back burner till I can suss out the lighting changes I would have to do.

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Post by authentic » Fri May 31, 2013 10:16 am

If the light output is bright enough I don't think they'll notice (I know brake lights have to be visible at night from 200m, the same may apply for other lights).

If you're worried about their appearance during the day then you should still be ok. I've gone through a VTNZ WOF and driven past plenty of cop cars with what looks like empty holes as my bumper lights. Not had any trouble yet.

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Post by SLYDIT » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:51 pm

i have hovered my mouse over the "buy NOW" on those smoked lenses many times....just cant bring myself to get them...must do paint first, must do paint first.
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Post by tomtikki » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:09 pm

SLYDIT wrote:i have hovered my mouse over the "buy NOW" on those smoked lenses many times....just cant bring myself to get them...must do paint first, must do paint first.
Once you have fitted them -assuming your existing old units are ok- just flick them off individually on trademe!
I did and it means my brand new clear lenses, even including postage from the states, only cost me $10. Bargain!
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