Cert Costs for Turbo build

Angreal · Post by **Angreal** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:36 pm

Guess I'll find out from you when I finally get around to popping by seeing as we are almost neighbours in the wild west.

Mr. Shine · Post by **Mr. Shine** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:34 pm

I recall my cert costs as being $460 including GST, which would have been probably around March this year, with Neil Fraser.

WideOpenThrottle · Post by **WideOpenThrottle** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:20 pm

Jee did i get fleeced?

Mr. Shine · Post by **Mr. Shine** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:17 pm

Did you require an exhaust noise test as part of yours? Mine was $400 plus GST but only for adjustable suspension.

Donovan · Post by **Donovan** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:19 pm

Mine was $550 incl, plus another $100 for the bumpsteer test with Neil

WideOpenThrottle · Post by **WideOpenThrottle** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:06 am

Mr. Shine wrote:Did you require an exhaust noise test as part of yours? Mine was $400 plus GST but only for adjustable suspension.

No noise test- just turbo,wheels,brakes,seat,loop,suspension,ecu,intercooler,roll bar,boot wing,body-kit as written on his sheet..... some stuff on there that i thought wouldn't need to be mentioned on the report!

Denz · Post by **Denz** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:06 am

For mild power increase, apart from safety hoop has anyone had to do any other supporting mods? Brakes etc?
Im thinking 150hp ish, or what ever I can get away with without upgrading much else

WideOpenThrottle · Post by **WideOpenThrottle** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:31 am

I suppose it all depends on the certifier but i would think that bigger front brakes would be all you might have to do.

Euen · Post by **Euen** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:54 pm

For a street turbo application, the 1.8 brakes front and rear should be more than adequate (with good pads). As they are a standard part they shouldn't need certing.

Mr. Shine · Post by **Mr. Shine** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:55 pm

Euen wrote:As they are a standard part they shouldn't need certing.

Pretty sure this is incorrect, strictly speaking, as all brake modifications other than those specified in the thresholds (and upgrading larger rotors/calipers/pads is not specified) require certification.

tomtikki · Post by **tomtikki** » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:17 am

Mr. Shine wrote:
Euen wrote:As they are a standard part they shouldn't need certing.
Pretty sure this is incorrect, strictly speaking, as all brake modifications other than those specified in the thresholds (and upgrading larger rotors/calipers/pads is not specified) require certification.

Yeah I got told that too but personally I judged the definition of 'need' to be if I couldn't get a warrent...
And the 1.8 upgrade doesn't scream "im not factory" (i didn't fit silver braided lines or anything) I've got warrants with no worries!

Mr. Shine · Post by **Mr. Shine** » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:34 pm

tomtikki wrote:Yeah I got told that too but personally I judged the definition of 'need' to be if I couldn't get a warrent...
And the 1.8 upgrade doesn't scream "im not factory" (i didn't fit silver braided lines or anything) I've got warrants with no worries!

Oh absolutely, just mentioning the letter of the law to be safe. I know I'd hate to be caught out by insurance or a particularly eagle-eyed constable or WoF inspector, but chances are you'd be unlikely to ever be pulled up on it.

tomtikki · Post by **tomtikki** » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:44 pm

That's the great thing about the people on this site, you can get all the info! And as they say "forewarned is forearmed". -or something like that.
Me I'm a cheap bugger or as I prefer to be titled. A chancer.
So far so good...

hlau028 · Post by **hlau028** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:02 pm

My cert was with Neil aswell, in around August this year.

Adjustable suspension, Seat, Steering wheel. Got charged $480?

Snapfrozen · Post by **Snapfrozen** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:54 pm

Mr. Shine wrote:
Euen wrote:As they are a standard part they shouldn't need certing.
Pretty sure this is incorrect, strictly speaking, as all brake modifications other than those specified in the thresholds (and upgrading larger rotors/calipers/pads is not specified) require certification.

Correct. If it wasn't factory to that specific car, you need a cert.

However, the likelihood of ACTUALLY needing a cert to pass a WoF is pretty dam slim

last_resort14 · Post by **last_resort14** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:21 am

Wof inspectors/cops wouldnt know what to look for for these sort of things anyway, would never pick up on it.
when I got my cert I told the guy about the larger brakes, there was nothing put on the cert plate about it anyway.

I got a Wof when my car was certed for a B6 but had a BP in it

Denz · Post by **Denz** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:51 pm

Missed out talking to you about this on saturday actually
I have a wof guy I could get a wof with a jet engine in my car, its more about the insurance factor tbh

RMS · Post by **RMS** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:40 am

I got my car certed by Neil for arouns the $500 mark; turbo + coilovers. I would recommend him as I thought he was very good to deal with.

Re the brakes: I fitted some M1166 front pads from 0800 race brakes and had no issues with the cert - otherwise stock 1600 brakes. I found that they couldn't handle repeated stops from 200kph on at pukekohe though and now the car has stock pads due to a simultaneous lack of brake pads and funds.. go figure. I will sort the brakes out properly before I drive it again though because brake fade is no fun.

For LVV related things this is a good web site: http://www.lvvta.org.nz/ lots of info here regarding what does/does not need a cert. The documentation there was really helpful when I was preparing my car for it's cert, For instance, it describes the requirements for brakes quite plainly.

Technically you require a cert for changing a turbo or fitting an external wastegate.. how many uncerted evo's etc.. do you think there are out there with massive turbo upgrades? no one is going to notice 1.8 brakes on a 1.6.

Interestingly you can apparently cert a full rollcage in a convertible.. wish I'd known that when I got mine done because I wouldn't have removed the cage :/

re the wheels - the size is noted on my cert and I'm not sure why, the LVVTA modification threshold document states that the can be changed without a cert within reason.. I have a set of 14's for the street and 15's for the track days, planning to ditch the 14's and it would be a pain if this caused problems with the wof.

Timmo · Post by **Timmo** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:00 pm

Denz wrote: I have a wof guy I could get a wof with a jet engine in my car

Go on then

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