Radar Detector

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Michael & Kate Cooper

Radar Detector

Post by Michael & Kate Cooper » Thu Nov 29, 2001 8:02 am

Hi!

We have a Uniden radar detector which seems to be a bit slack at giving us
prior warning. I'm not sure what model it is but it's only a couple of years
old and is supposed to pick up laser as well. We have tried cleaning the
window, but it is still very slow ... ie We see the police car sometimes
before it beeps at us! Does anyone else use the Valentine One mentioned
earlier?

Thanks
Kate

jeff w

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Post by jeff w » Thu Nov 29, 2001 10:40 am

I noticed on the Desert Rd that the fuzz seems to
favour instant-on! And pretty much from point blank
as well. Seems like the only cure in that case was
prevention. (or a jammer!)

PS - this was not just once but maybe 3 or 4 zaps on
the way to/from the mountain in August.


--- Michael & Kate Cooper <m_cooper@clear.net.nz>
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Hi guys

I was wondering how long it would take to hear the old exploding
lightened flywheel line. I've seen it and I wont be going there either.
Bloody bad news.

Other ways to go fast , and besides it's bloody hard to brake with out
feet , or so hop a long cassidy tells me.

cheers

MADMXV

Trevor Henderson

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Post by Trevor Henderson » Thu Nov 29, 2001 11:22 am

A MOT mate( cop) tells me that in the Canterbury area ( ChCh south) they
favour the 'instant -on' approach- and like Jeff W apparently they try and
get the car at very, very close range! He advises me that it is quite
amusing when the 'stopped' driver indicates the their expensive radar
detector didn't work...
Trevor Henderson,
Henderson Design Ltd.

ross campbell

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Post by ross campbell » Thu Nov 29, 2001 12:28 pm

Well that makes me think its more of a game than anything else, plus its
easy money.If speed kills why were there no deaths at the V 8 racing at
pukekohe, cause they looked pretty fast from where I was sitting.Ross

Sam Parker

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Post by Sam Parker » Thu Nov 29, 2001 10:24 pm

I had a Uniden and similar comments re performance or lack of, now have Escort
Passport which works well - rate just behind Valentine but quite a bit cheaper
(from memory around $1200 - $1300 mark.

Regards

Sam & Denise Parker
340 Beach Road
Mairangi Bay
Auckland
NEW ZEALAND

Ph/fax 64 9 478 4761
Mobile sam 021 909 140, Denise 025 774 917
email samparker@clear.net.nz

SG & NA Fisk

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Post by SG & NA Fisk » Thu Nov 29, 2001 10:47 pm

Advice is to do the research always before buying - that why this club is so
great - get lots of experience available - The Unidens are next to useless -
Valentines are the acknowledged best but a very close 2nd is the top of the
line Bell ($1100) - which I have - "what you pay for etc...) - It will pick
up the road tax collectors at about 1/2 mile away - but the cunning ones pulse
their radars when they have you in sight. Likewise if you meet one coming
round a blind corner or over the top of a rise - too late - ouch - as I found
out twice now! Have had all sorts of cars & bikes for years but have found
that the filth love to follow little red cars. As you all know I travel 800
Km a week highway driving - I meet 3 to 5 tax collectors every morning and
nite - It keeps the trip interesting going as fast as I can. Occasionally have
used our HiAce van - do much the same speeds & pop the Bell in - but they
ignore you!!! - interesting eh?
Another thing - I followed one Inland Revenue mobile unit who was out hunting
- He was following very close behind a car doing 100Km and every straight he
came to, he pulsed the radar when an oncoming vehicle was almost on top of us
- only took about 10 mins of this before he got some poor victim doing the
crazed and dangerous speed of ~115Km
Steve

Matt Gunn

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Post by Matt Gunn » Fri Nov 30, 2001 6:54 am

Hi guys

interesting thoughts Ross. I've got a few as well.

I believe that radars are a money making exercise , no doubt , and it's
this way all over the world. But the speed thing. Have a think about the
V8 supercars.

At Pukekohe they are all driving in the one direction , all have extreme
safety features built into the cars , rubber between then and the walls
, sand traps , helmets , fire suits etc etc etc. Need I go on. Of course
speed kills , if it was completely safe to drive at a million miles an
hour , why the need for the safety equipment. Did'nt see many trees 6
feet from the racetrack , or drunk idiots to miss. You've heard the adds
, the faster you go , the bigger the mess. Its the same at the races .
the difference is not hard to spot.

cheers

MADMXV

Gary Morrison
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Post by Gary Morrison » Fri Nov 30, 2001 8:48 am

The good thing about all this is that even with them using instant on, they
are usually checking others apart from you, so have likely pulsed it a few
times before you come along. My Valentine goes off way before I ever see them,
or they see me. Only worry would be in an area of almost zero traffic, but
then they wouldn't be around would they, not profitable enough.

ross campbell

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Post by ross campbell » Fri Nov 30, 2001 2:35 pm

Matt , my comments were tongue in cheek. Speed doesnt kill its peoples lack
of road sense.Ross

darryl

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Post by darryl » Fri Nov 30, 2001 3:51 pm

Speed doesn't kill, its the sudden stop! If every body was made to learn to
drive properly before being able to get a lisence, more people would be
capable of avoiding the sudden stop.
Has anybody else here read the article 'Greed Kills' in the June 2001 Motor
Magazine? This article outlines the proof that the speed kills theory is a
big money making exercise in Australia and no doubt is the same in NZ. There
are figures to show how raising the speed limit in some countires actually
caused the road toll to drop, and how the government and police in OZ
determine and say that speed was a factor in an accident, yet in reality had
nothing to do with what caused it. This is a very good read. About 4-5 pages
of very good 'facts'.
I have said in many posts on lots of sites when this topic comes up, and
thats, if speed kills, I would be dead!
I am a cronic speeder yet have manged to avoid through common sence, the
sudden stop and the 'other' factors that contribute to an accident where
speed may be considered the cause. For example, other road users haven't hit
me yet, driving to the conditions (and yes to me that means if its a sunny
day and a smooth open road with very low traffic, 120KM/h is safe, provided
there are no disco's around) and being alert. I find when I am in a hurry
(like the day my second daughter was born) I conentrate harder. Proof of
this is in this case, I can recall a lot more if not all, of the drive from
Auckland to Morrinsville that night, compared with slow cruises where I
think to myself after a while, 'hmmm, don't remember driving through Mercer?'.
If the government were so concerned about road safety it would be harder to
gety a lisence. This would be by having to actually pass car handling skills
and avasive?? action skills etc. Also, if the government were so concerned
about saving lives, why add taxes to smoking when they can simply ban it
(and there is a way to introduce this I think). This would save more lives
and money than if the road toll dropped to NIL.
In NZ and OZ, you are far more likely to lose your lisence through speeding
than your life.
My 5 cents worth.
Should keep all my 5c comments and save up for a radar detector too I think.

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possum skin seat covers , driving suits , winter season open top driving
hand and ear warmers. All sounds very worrying.

cheers

MADMXV

Matt Gunn

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Post by Matt Gunn » Thu Dec 06, 2001 6:53 am

Go Darryl

Just a quick note , there's only one government , it was , they were .
If the government was concerned , not if the government were concerned.
You could also use is , but not were.

sorry about the bitch'n reply. Must be the speed. It's killin my sense
of humour. Now where's that 5 dollar note.

cheers

MADMXV

ross campbell

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Post by ross campbell » Thu Dec 06, 2001 5:33 pm

Matt, you are in the wrong job , you should be a teacher.

SG & NA Fisk

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Post by SG & NA Fisk » Thu Dec 06, 2001 10:38 pm

Exactly right & well said Darryl
Sit & listen to this while I get my soap box out.
I work for a large manufacturing company and no way would we put an operator
in charge of a machine without constant and continual training. In fact its
against good manufacturing practice & licensing regulations to not do annual
retraining. - yet I have had my car licence for 30 yrs without being
checked by any authority let alone retrained or having advanced driver
training. ( I have done this myself) The roads, cars & conditions have
changed alot in that time.
The road safety /road tax programme is nothing but revenue collection hiding
behind a well orchestrated propaganda programme perpetrated on the average
citizen who swallows it hook line & sinker without thinking.
If the authorities were really serious about road safety there is heaps of
thing they could do to improve driver skills - some ideas - set up
compulsory advanced training programmes to really train people - including
simulators - and periodically reassess them. There could be graded adult
licences perhaps linked to size & type of car &/or insurance refunds - or
linked to practical retesting from yearly to 10 yearly intervals. Things
like advanced driver training, skid pan practice - belonging to a car club
and competing in events could all count towards points needed to keep your
licence current. Many professional organisations such as Medical Lab
Technologists have similar training programmes to keep members up with
current practice and allow their annual registration to work.
But No - not with cars/ Bikes - such programmes would require an effort and
people who really care - its much easier to buy cameras and collect revenue
to look like you are doing something and place lots of negative, non
constructive adds on TV & radio that have no effect on the thick people you
are trying to reach & just piss the rest of us off and upset the kids at tea
time. (Phycologists have shown that knowledge alone does not change behaviour)
The twits had the perfect chance to show they were serious about safety when
they realised they could fleece us for even more $ by making us renew our
licence again and every 10 yrs - a perfect opportunity to reassess people to
see if they are capable of controlling their machine. - This was suggested
by AA & others but they were only interested in the revenue - not the chance
to retrain anyone or really make a difference in our driving habits.
When I was a lad on public holidays they placed a black & whites near known
trouble spots and the traffic behaved well. Today they hide a camera or
laser radar so people often do not even know they have been observed - so no
change in behaviour - gee what a surprise
As an example of how responsible and proactive you can be listen to this - a
private company I used to work for thought that under the Health & Safety in
Employment Act they had a duty to protect their employees - so they
maintained that one of the most dangerous things the employees did was
travel to & from work. Therefore all employees & new staff have individual
advanced driver training paid for by the company until you pass the
assessment & training.
Now what an example to the rest of New Zealand eh?
Regards Steve - 800K of fun a week in ZED the red MX5

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