Alarm systems

mstubbs · Post by **mstubbs** » Sat Sep 15, 2001 9:50 am

Can anyone reccommend a reasonably priced alarm system for a 1990 roadster,
Thanks, Mikey

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Sat Sep 15, 2001 12:06 pm

Go to www.dynatron.co.nz
Give me a call for member benefits and all the info you could want. Colin
021 363948
or double@paradise.net.nz

Chic & Morven · Post by **Chic & Morven** » Sat Sep 15, 2001 2:34 pm

I've had a Dynatron alarm for a couple of years now. I'm still really
pleased with it. At the time I shopped around and they were easily the
cheapest system that had all the features I wanted. (central locking,
micro-wave motion sensing, auto immobilising etc). The main feature that
I've come to depend on is that it never false alarms.So if it goes off I
know somethings going on. Although up to now it hasn't been people breaking
in, it's been cats... We're going to get one fitted to our other MX5.

Also I seem to remember Brent had a special alarm deal for club members,
but I don't think he's on this list.
His system might have been Mongoose, but I'm not sure.

Geoff Watkins · Post by **Geoff Watkins** » Sun Sep 16, 2001 8:01 am

Hi Mikey
Mazda put out a Factory Alarm for MX5,s
I have one Fitted to my 1998 Model only the Base System thou.
Do these Numbers mean anything printed on the back of the Manual.
Mzda-AL-NB300 01
Mzda-AL-NB30 02

Geoff W

Geoff Watkins · Post by **Geoff Watkins** » Sun Sep 16, 2001 8:16 am

Ps
Also when fitted it included with the zapper a button which you can
automatically open each door.
ie don't have to use the key

Geoff W

Biff · Post by **Biff** » Sun Sep 16, 2001 12:27 pm

Chic,
Would you have any idea on a price?
B

Scott Elder · Post by **Scott Elder** » Sun Sep 16, 2001 3:37 pm

I've got a nice mongoose alarm, really good, including central locking
feature like Geoff was talking about, nice and handy

Chic & Morven · Post by **Chic & Morven** » Sun Sep 16, 2001 6:10 pm

Biff,
I got it fitted over two years ago so I'm not 100% sure about the price. I
think it may have been around $550 fitted including optional extras like
shock sensor, Microwave sensor and central locking. you could easily go
without the microwave sensor which would reduce the price a fair bit.

Tj Honeybone · Post by **Tj Honeybone** » Mon Sep 17, 2001 10:23 am

Hi Mikey

I don't know how much help this will be to you, but last week I had a AVS 5000i installed into my 1990 Roadster. I'm a bit of a ditz when it comes to how things work and stuff, but I can give you a few details. It cost me $599 incl GST and installation. It meets the AS/NZ3749.1 and AS/NZ4601 standards - this has taken my excess if it's stolen or mutilated from $750 to $0 with my insurance company. My car is a soft top and I don't have a hard top for it. The alarm came with a microwave sensor for the inside if you want to go away and leave the roof down, along with the normal doors, windows, boot, bonnet, bumped etc. It doesn't go off it the cat jumps on it or car drives past, but if you kick a tyre it does. It has two circuits immoblised and black wiring so if someone does get in, firstly they will not be able to steal it unless they put it on the back of a trailer and secondly they will have big problems if they do try and stop the alarm figuring out which wire is which!
!
. It's got battery back up and is also set to turn itself on after a certain amount of time if I forget to. I can't remember half of the things I was told about it, but that's a start anyway. It took four hours for it to be installed and as part of a special deal this particular alarm came with the internal sensor free - they are normally another $200. It can also have other things added to it like a pager, cellphone call, central locking, remote start up of the car, automatic boot popping etc. A very handy alarm I think.

My car got broken into a few months ago and I've been searching and saving for something within my budget. I don't have $2000 to $3000 to spend on a fancy alarm with a big name - this I think would suit most peoples budgets and seems to do all the things you could need.

Good luck on your search.
Tina

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Can anyone reccommend a reasonably priced alarm system for a 1990 roadster,
Thanks, Mikey

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Colin · Post by **Colin** » Mon Sep 17, 2001 7:42 pm

The 5000i is a good system. It has a reasonable range of features and is not
too badly priced.
I am told that it may be undergoing testing to AS/NZS 3749 in the future.
I can confirm to you that it currently does not have either AS/NZS
3749.1.1997 or AS/NZS 4601.1999 certification.
Some of the features that you mention, such as black wiring are part of the
standard. There is a lot more that it must pass on to receive certification.
I have come across many who say they meet the standard . My question to them
is , What is your certificate number? My reasoning being that if it can pass
all the tests required of it then why isn't it certified? The answer usually
is that it may meet some of the requirements and is not able to meet others.
When we are dealing with a device that immobilises the engine it is
incredibly important that the design and testing is very stringent. An
engine turning off at 100kph on a blind off camber corner is best not
experienced and left to the imagination. While I haven't heard of a 5000i
doing that, without the 4601 standard , I just can't have faith.
The Dynatron D3800 is at the moment, I believe, one of only two systems
available in NZ with dual certification.
It has a current retail price of $620 including gst and installation to
3749.2 standard.The mx5 member price is $580.00 again including gst and
installation to 3749.2
Feature for feature it is very highly spec'ed.
I will get a full list of accessories and system prices onto the website if
I can.
I am pleased to answer any questions regarding any system sold in NZ. And
also to explain why some sensors are superior in some cases than others,
where and when you would use them.
I can have installation completed anywhere in the country ( and on some
offshore islands)
The insurance that I can in some cases assist with gives 'theft excess
waiver and protection of no claims bonus' with an mx5 and virtually all of
our systems

Hope that helps and not too over the top.
Tina I think you clearly got some info before you purchased. If I can add
anything to it, I'd like to.
Thanks for listening.

Colin

Gary Morrison · Post by **Gary Morrison** » Tue Sep 18, 2001 2:19 pm

Ouch Deanna... it really is time to get tough! Condolences...

Graeme_Head/AMPNZ · Post by **Graeme_Head/AMPNZ** » Tue Sep 18, 2001 2:23 pm

Deanna, where are you parking??? Sounds like the cretins doing this have
targeted your car for its "bolt on" goodies,
( Momo steering wheel, etc ) and aren't particularly interested in the car
itself. If they already ignored / bypassed a cheap alarm, then an expensive
one isn't going to make much difference as they will still slash your top /
steal your stereo. The expensive alarm just makes it more difficult to
physically take the whole car.

My 2 cents worth is to look at changing the parking location to somewhere
more visible / secure. If its not possible to change the parking location,
invest in a hard top - this at least should slow 'em down a bit.

Graeme

"Deanna Bell" <d.bell@auckland.ac.nz>@mx5club.org.nz on 19/09/2001 01:37:56
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Where do I go to get one of these alarm systems? My car was
vandalized this weekend and I've had my soft top slashed for the
4th time since I've had it. My stereo is gone, my glove box
shattered, and even my steering wheel taken. The alarm that was
in the car when I bought it did nothing and I have just found out that
my insurance excess with 'State' for attempted theft is $1500. I
have a clean record with the full no claims bonus and am over 25
years old with a full license. I pay over $600 a year in premuims
and now I need to make a claim I'll be lucky to get back anything.
I have decided I need to put in a premuim alarm, but where do I go
and who do I see.

Deanna
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Phil Dyer · Post by **Phil Dyer** » Wed Sep 19, 2001 7:42 am

Ouch! I am with State too - must have a look at my policy. I weep with you.
Phil

Bill · Post by **Bill** » Wed Sep 19, 2001 8:31 am

Which reminds me...what is the status of that spreadsheet of insurers???

Bill

Keith Cook · Post by **Keith Cook** » Wed Sep 19, 2001 1:50 pm

Move South young woman!

peter · Post by **peter** » Wed Sep 19, 2001 4:55 pm

Deanna...

some ideas for you...

1/ How much is your car insured for? If it's above market value, you're being ripped off by State. Your excess should
only be that high in exchange for a greatly reduced premium... I'd pretend to be someone else and ring for a fresh
quote - ak for different excesses, you'll be surprised at the range of options. If you can negotiate a reduced premium,
get it back-dated as well.

2/ Write to Wilson Parking formally complaining about their poor security. Photocopy their reply and stick it under
every other car's wiper blades. Do this at other Wilson carparks.

3/ If you don't use your car for a day or so I'd recommend putting a car-cover over it - apart from hiding your car
from prying eyes it's another layer of protection against the weather. Some covers are "theft-proof / kevlar" and can be
locked.

4/ There are steering wheel locking bars with alarms built in available... . Won't go off when your door's are opened,
but will if the wheel gets removed / turned etc.

5/ If you're replacing your stereo, try for a removable one, or at least with a removable faceplate. Warning stickers
for windows are handy ie "Factory code needed if radio removed" supplied for some brands by the manufacturers.

6/ Leave your glovebox open when not driving.

7/ Advise your insurance company of these precautions in writing to reduce your premium further. If their reply is
unhelpful, talk to other insurance companies with this information and State's reply at hand.

Peter.
DRGN-1

Keith Cook · Post by **Keith Cook** » Wed Sep 19, 2001 7:14 pm

Then move south young woman.

Deanna Bell · Post by **Deanna Bell** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:43 pm

From: "Colin" <double@paradise.net.nz>
To: "MX5List" <mx5list@mx5club.org.nz>
Subject: Re: Alarm systems
Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:42:55 +1200
Send reply to: MX5List<mx5list@mx5club.org.nz>

Where do I go to get one of these alarm systems? My car was
vandalized this weekend and I've had my soft top slashed for the
4th time since I've had it. My stereo is gone, my glove box
shattered, and even my steering wheel taken. The alarm that was
in the car when I bought it did nothing and I have just found out that
my insurance excess with 'State' for attempted theft is $1500. I
have a clean record with the full no claims bonus and am over 25
years old with a full license. I pay over $600 a year in premuims
and now I need to make a claim I'll be lucky to get back anything.
I have decided I need to put in a premuim alarm, but where do I go
and who do I see.

Deanna
[...]

Deanna Bell · Post by **Deanna Bell** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:43 pm

From: Graeme_Head/AMPNZ@amp.co.nz
Subject: Re: Alarm systems
To: MX5List<mx5list@mx5club.org.nz>
Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:23:47 +1200
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Thanks for everyones sympathy.
Unfortunately I live in a central auckland city apartment with not
much choice for parking. I pay $160 a month for the carpark in a
Wilsons building next door, and when I alerted them of the lack of
security they had, they didn't seem to care less. The small print
states that I park at my own risk. A hardtop is my next option but I
have no garage and would have to store it in my living room. And
after I pay the $1500 theft excess for my insurance I have to start
the savings account all over again. I am on the waiting list for a
carpark under my apartment block at $200 per month. I think I
need to pressure the superintendent a little harder. At present I am
still gieving.

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Deanna Bell · Post by **Deanna Bell** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:44 pm

From: "dragon" <peter@dragon.net.nz>
To: "MX5List" <mx5list@mx5club.org.nz>
Subject: Re: Alarm systems
Date sent: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:55:59 +1200
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These are top ideas
Thanks

Deanna...

some ideas for you...

1/ How much is your car insured for? If it's above market value, you're being ripped off by State. Your excess should
only be that high in exchange for a greatly reduced premium... I'd pretend to be someone else and ring for a fresh
quote - ak for different excesses, you'll be surprised at the range of options. If you can negotiate a reduced premium,
get it back-dated as well.

2/ Write to Wilson Parking formally complaining about their poor security. Photocopy their reply and stick it under
every other car's wiper blades. Do this at other Wilson carparks.

3/ If you don't use your car for a day or so I'd recommend putting a car-cover over it - apart from hiding your car
from prying eyes it's another layer of protection against the weather. Some covers are "theft-proof / kevlar" and can be
locked.

4/ There are steering wheel locking bars with alarms built in available... . Won't go off when y

our door's are opened,

but will if the wheel gets removed / turned etc.

5/ If you're replacing your stereo, try for a removable one, or at least with a removable facepl

ate. Warning stickers

for windows are handy ie "Factory code needed if radio removed" supplied for some brands by the m

anufacturers.

6/ Leave your glovebox open when not driving.

7/ Advise your insurance company of these precautions in writing to reduce your premium further.

If their reply is
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