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Graeme Naisbitt

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Post by Graeme Naisbitt » Wed Dec 04, 2002 3:41 pm

Hmmm, methinks its got out of hand. I'm not taking sides either but to
say that fitting spacers is an insult to the cars design, weeeeeeelllll,
how about fitting turbo/super chargers? Adjustable shocks? Anti-roll
bars? Suspension/Tower braces? Different tyres to stock? Hmmmm,
perhaps we all have insulted the design in that case.

I also like to read about these things, I don't know that much about
these sorts of modifications, even if I've been involved with cars, in a
big way (I'm an apprenticed fitter by trade) but I have lots of areas
lacking. So thanks for the info on the spacers, I will now go and find
out a lot more information about them before I make a decision. Lou I
value your opinion also, but let us make our own minds up.

A bit disappointed that you are throwing your toys out of the cot just
because someone disagrees with you though Sean...

Still that was my tuppence worth.

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Post by Gary Morrison » Wed Dec 04, 2002 3:56 pm

On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:27:57 +1300, Sean Craig wrote: "massed produced
gutless wonder like the MX5 " and... "I know of several motoring journos
who have MX5s as their daily drivers and love them to bits. " Sort of
contradictory.

Sean Craig

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Post by Sean Craig » Wed Dec 04, 2002 3:58 pm

no throwing ... changes are ahead so no more time for the list :(
won't have regular email for a while ... but i'll be back sometime next year
no bad feelings lou ... all in good humour :)
lists are good for seeing what people really think but alas my time is ended.
at least i'm going out with a bang ha ha ha

On Wednesday, Dec 4, 2002, at 15:41 Pacific/Auckland, Graeme Naisbitt
wrote:
Hmmm, methinks its got out of hand. I'm not taking sides either but
to
say that fitting spacers is an insult to the cars design,
weeeeeeelllll,
how about fitting turbo/super chargers? Adjustable shocks? Anti-roll
bars? Suspension/Tower braces? Different tyres to stock? Hmmmm,
perhaps we all have insulted the design in that case.

I also like to read about these things, I don't know that much about
these sorts of modifications, even if I've been involved with cars, in
a
big way (I'm an apprenticed fitter by trade) but I have lots of areas
lacking. So thanks for the info on the spacers, I will now go and find
out a lot more information about them before I make a decision. Lou I
value your opinion also, but let us make our own minds up.

A bit disappointed that you are throwing your toys out of the cot just
because someone disagrees with you though Sean...

Still that was my tuppence worth.


Sean Craig
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Post by Gary Morrison » Wed Dec 04, 2002 3:59 pm

No No, don't misunderstand. Suspension design is a science, and the
geometry is very specific. Sticking on spacers completely negates it.
Adding more power through a supercharger, turbo etc, or aftermarket
shocks (designed for the car) or springs etc will vary the performance
while remaining in general in harmony with the original design. On Wed, 4
Dec 2002 15:41:01 +1300, Graeme Naisbitt wrote: Hmmm, methinks its got
out of hand. I'm not taking sides either but to say that fitting spacers
is an insult to the cars design, weeeeeeelllll, how about fitting
turbo/super chargers? Adjustable shocks? Anti-roll bars?
Suspension/Tower braces? Different tyres to stock? Hmmmm, perhaps we
all have insulted the design in that case. I also like to read about
these things, I don't know that much about these sorts of modifications,
even if I've been involved with cars, in a big way (I'm an apprenticed
fitter by trade) but I have lots of areas lacking. So thanks for the
info on the spacers, I will now go and find out a lot more information
about them before I make a decision. Lou I value your opinion also, but
let us make our own minds up. A bit disappointed that you are throwing
your toys out of the cot just because someone disagrees with you though
Sean... Still that was my tuppence worth.

Graeme Naisbitt

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Post by Graeme Naisbitt » Wed Dec 04, 2002 4:01 pm

Yeah but what about suspension braces etc. designed to stiffen the
suspension? And alignment settings, what if your chosen alignment is
the same as stock?

lou Girardin

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Post by lou Girardin » Wed Dec 04, 2002 4:02 pm

Check my posts, I never said they'll make no difference, in fact they'll make
a lot of difference. Mostly bad.
Lou

lou Girardin

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Post by lou Girardin » Wed Dec 04, 2002 4:11 pm

Ah! So you don't use them on the street. All the info at once would be a good
thing, otherwise people might get the wrong idea!
Lou

lou Girardin

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Post by lou Girardin » Wed Dec 04, 2002 4:20 pm

No ill feelings on my part, the list needs a rev from time to time.
Graeme, modifying your car is one thing. But getting partial advice which
could be dangerous is another. Braces, sway bars, stiffer springs, shocks etc.
enable you to set your car up for a particular purpose. But most of these do
not alter the basic geometry of the suspension, once you do that you exceed
the design parameters and the risk of failure becomes unacceptable for a road
car.
Lou

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Post by Gary Morrison » Wed Dec 04, 2002 4:21 pm

Mazda have progressively added braces to the car year by year, and they
provided for complete alignment flexibility with the user adjustments
designed in. They don't take the suspension outside of its design
parameters... On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:01:26 +1300, Graeme Naisbitt wrote:
Yeah but what about suspension braces etc& designed to stiffen the
suspension? And alignment settings, what if your chosen alignment is the
same as stock?

Graeme Naisbitt

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Post by Graeme Naisbitt » Wed Dec 04, 2002 4:25 pm

No that's cool, like I say it's an area I know nothing about. suppose
its about time I got mine realigned as well =)

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