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Charles & Morven Lynch

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Post by Charles & Morven Lynch » Wed Oct 30, 2002 7:14 am

Morven's car has been found in Howick. The roof has been slashed but
we're not sure about other damage yet.We'll give you an update tonight.
Phew! Chic -- Charles & Morven Lynch, chicnmo@ihug.co.nz on 30/10/2002

Graeme Naisbitt

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Post by Graeme Naisbitt » Wed Oct 30, 2002 7:39 am

Hopefully in one piece though, lets hope the little b*stards who took
it are found as well, probably not much chance of that though. Still
must be a weight off your shoulders =)

Simon Lord
See my 5 and raise you.
See my 5 and raise you.
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Post by Simon Lord » Wed Oct 30, 2002 2:38 pm

Great news, you must be delighted. Guess the roof was inevitable - hope the
insurance will cover it.

Cheers
Simon
97 SR Ltd (sparkle green)
Email: simon@franchise.co.nz

Aaron Hart

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Post by Aaron Hart » Wed Oct 30, 2002 3:26 pm

Talking about insurance,

Whats the best company to be with for insurance ? at the moment my access is about $1000.00 if there is damage to the roof, or $300.00 if entry by other means that is with NZI, anyone else had experience with insurance ?

Later
Aaron.

nmr

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Post by nmr » Wed Oct 30, 2002 5:21 pm

Whats the best company to be with for insurance ? at the moment my
access is about $1000.00 if there is damage to the roof, or $300.00 if
entry by other means
Solve that problem by never locking it. Why bother? Complete
waste of time and effort. Install an alarm.

nmr

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Post by nmr » Wed Oct 30, 2002 5:21 pm

Morven's car has been found in Howick.
Er - how was it found?

jeff

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Post by jeff » Wed Oct 30, 2002 6:11 pm

hmmm... problem with not locking is the crime becomes petty... really petty!

I used to not lock my CRX after both the locks were molested. I'd come out in the morning to find door ajar, glovebox open etc. Fine. Then they stole the factory shift knob! Then they practiced hot-wiring it (and failed), destroying the ignition. Then one morning my wheels all vanished !! This was in George St, Mt Eden - pretty close to Chic's place.

Locking is good. Alarms are good. I'm a big fan of dual-zone microwave sensors and interior sirens.

Chic - hope the car's alright...

Jeff
alarmed-to-the-hilt

nmr@iprolink.co.nz wrote:> Whats the best company to be with for insurance ? at the moment my
access is about $1000.00 if there is damage to the roof, or $300.00 if
entry by other means
Solve that problem by never locking it. Why bother? Complete
waste of time and effort. Install an alarm.

lola.anna

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Post by lola.anna » Wed Oct 30, 2002 7:44 pm

REALLY good news. Fingers crossed that the damage is minimal.
Goldie

zorruno
Black is the new black.
Black is the new black.
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Location: An Eastern Beach

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Post by zorruno » Wed Oct 30, 2002 9:29 pm

also - check your insurance policy. Most say if not locked - no insurance
for theft or ex-car contents theft. Hard to prove, but you'll still have to
lie to your insurance company.

and it doesn't take me long to press 'lock' on my remote...


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Graeme Naisbitt

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Post by Graeme Naisbitt » Wed Oct 30, 2002 9:34 pm

And of course, everyone pays attention to alarms going off don't we?
Best bet is to fit a decent one that immobilizes at least 2 circuits -
this is much more important.

Your car will get broken into but chances are they won't be able to move
it (quickly) and give up. Its nice to be able to press the lock button
though =)

Graeme

Mike Donovan

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Post by Mike Donovan » Wed Oct 30, 2002 10:47 pm

Sounds a bit like when my old gxl 3.0 capri was stolen. The police told me
they use like a corkscrew on the end of a steel rod. Also on the rod is a
sliding weight. They kind of screw the tapered thread corkscrew thing into the
ignition barrel then slam the weight against the far end where a stop plate is
attached to the rod. The barrel comes loose then they just used a screwdriver
to start it.
Good to hear it's in reasonable nick, pic looks good, but bad that it looks
like it must be someone who knows something about MX-5's
Cheers
Mike

Graeme Naisbitt

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Post by Graeme Naisbitt » Wed Oct 30, 2002 10:49 pm

Ah, technical term is a 'slide hammer' also useful for removing dents
and broken roll pins etc...

lou Girardin

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Post by lou Girardin » Fri Nov 01, 2002 8:50 am

How can you lose your NCB if you don't claim. I'd tell them where to stick
their policy whoever it was.
If you want a price on another alarm, give me a call or email.
Lou

lou Girardin

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Post by lou Girardin » Fri Nov 01, 2002 8:52 am

All reputable alarms now have immobilisers, but the design of such is all
important. Cheaper alarms can be disabled just by cutting power to the module.
Lou

lou Girardin

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Post by lou Girardin » Fri Nov 01, 2002 8:53 am

Try Aeon Insurance
Lou

Dave & Judy Kerr

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Post by Dave & Judy Kerr » Sun Nov 03, 2002 4:11 pm

Lou what sort of alarms do you have, range and prices please. I am in
Wellington so who down here can fit them?

Dave.

lou Girardin

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Post by lou Girardin » Mon Nov 04, 2002 8:22 am

Hi Dave,
Call Ashley at Abtec 0800 204 402, he'll discuss the range with you. Depending
on your insurance co. I'd recommend an M60AM system, this has a dedicated
micowave sensor as well as all the usual high security features.
Lou

Aaron Hart

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Post by Aaron Hart » Mon Nov 04, 2002 10:21 am

I got a Uniden 1100VM seems fine, fitted it myself along with the central locking, wasn't too hard, did the alarm over one afternoon and the central locking the following morning.

Colin

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Post by Colin » Mon Nov 04, 2002 2:13 pm

Hi Dave,
Give me a call also and I can give you lots of info on Standards Certification
for you immobiliser/alarm needs.
What insurance companies like to see what and probably answer any questions or
concerns about any system.
I am in Wellington and am phoneable on 9739719 or 021 363948.
Cheers
Colin

lou Girardin

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Post by lou Girardin » Mon Nov 04, 2002 3:20 pm

C'mon Colin, give your recommendations for the benefit of the whole list.
Lou

Colin

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Post by Colin » Mon Nov 04, 2002 6:19 pm

Hi Lou,
Firstly I want to say thanks for the tips and general info about mx5's. You
clearly have a huge knowledge and are always very early to assist anyone with
info regarding their concern. I have benefited from those responses many
times. It shows a generosity of spirit that I know other list users will have
noted.
So... Thank You.

Its not so easy to cover every eventuality or client request/need on one
email.
As you know client past details and insurance conditions make the excess
and/or premium very personalised.
As a general guide I am able often to arrange ' no theft excess and protection
of no claim benefits' for vehicle insurance.
This applies to MX5's and any other vehicle the client may wish to have
covered.
Of course there are conditions. Most people have no difficulty meeting them,
and the ones that do can generally be helped in some way.

Below is an email I posted in September of 2001. It is reprinted in italic.

I hope this is of value in the discussion of vehicle security systems.

I believe that there are several criteria that should be considered before you
entrust your baby to a vss.
Some of these are
design criteria
standard certification
reputation/credibility
features/override
service and backup
roadside assist
price/value

It is worth remembering that as with all things involving electronics the
price has come down relative to the quality/features available, while the
sophistication and inclusion of computer chip technology has seen rapid
improvements and innovation. Some older units are still of good quality and
very reliable even though they may not be current or leading edge technology.

The design criteria must include an immobiliser. Preferably two circuits. This
is what stops the car being stolen. I'll say that again The immobilser
circuits are the part that stops the car being stolen. The alarm makes a
noise. So the start of any good vss must have excellent immobilisation.

Credibility is a thorny one. There is I suspect no system that doesn't have a
horror story or two. In our case we are always looking to set the standard as
high as we can and the result is that we have had the odd moment when we
haven't reached our own standard. We have been importing and distributing vss
for 12 years now and have a close relationship with the largest manufacturer
in Australasia. All our products are independently tested and certified. We
very probably have the highest level of expertise in Australasia and maintain
an incredible database of vehicles for installation and service.

Standard certification. The standards are an easy way to set the minimum
level that a vss should reach. I am sure you realise the importance of the
standard certification process and the reliance that we have on knowing that a
product has been designed and built with some integrity.
An example of this is the seatbelt standard. It is inconceivable to me that
anyone would consider using seatbelts that are not up to scratch. Every
electrical appliance we use in our homes has to pass the relevant standard.
Again why would we want it any other way. The car itself is an example of
thousands of certified standards at work.

The immobiliser standard is AS/NZS 4601.1999 My advice is If a system doesn't
have that then don't go near it. Each product that is certified has a unique
certification number. If your supplier can't show you the certificate, maybe
you should look elsewhere.

The alarm standard is AS/NZS 3749.1.1997. This standard does mention
immobilisers although it doesn't go anywhere near the level of 4601. It
concerns itself with setting a minimum level of design, build and operation
for the alarm.

The installation standard is AS/NZS 3749.2.1997. This is very important. It
makes no difference how good the system is if it is installed in a bad way.
This is why all of our installers have to be trained and approved by us before
we let them loose on a clients car. It is also the reason that our systems
cannot be purchased at a Repco outlet or any other deka type stores. You
cannot walk out with one of our systems. What that means is that the next door
neighbour or the 'bloke I know' installs don't happen with our systems. And
what that means is the would be thief knows it is installed properly and walks
on looking for an easy mark.

oops it has turned into another epistle...

I'll end here by saying that we have a 24hr 7 day technical roadside assist
program that is the envy of every other vss supplier in NZ.
I have a price program that benefits mx5 club members greatly as well as an
insurance assist and benefit program. more on those if you would like.
I am available on 021 363948 or double@paradise.net.nz or via this list if you
have any questions or concern .

Thanks
Colin

Lou, I know you could add a great deal to this brief look at Vehicle Security
Systems. And I'm sure you will agree with most
if not all of what I have covered so far.
I'm sure you will also agree when I say that there are definitely some
products available that are just junk.

So in a nutshell... My recommendation is : Buy only Standards Certified
products from a credible company who provide excellent back-up and service,
and that
you feel comfortable dealing with.
Check with
your insurance company prior to purchasing.
Do take a
little time to understand the options and choices.
And if it seems a cheap price then its probably a cheap product. After all,
you cant get an MX5 for the cost of a skateboard.
Having said that a good system needn't be expensive and if needed a payment
schedule can be discussed.

I am coming to Auckland to have a look at big boys toys and would welcome the
opportunity to meet and have a chat over a cool ale.

Cheers

Colin

lou Girardin

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Post by lou Girardin » Tue Nov 05, 2002 8:13 am

Thanks Colin,
As you know, all security firms can offer the various benefits that insurance
companies offer for having their approved systems fitted.
The reason for my reply was that a general comment on security may benefit all
our members.
For instance, they may not know that there is a new alarm standard about to be
published which will require a certified interior sensor. Our M60 and M80
ranges has a microwave sensor ( very important for soft top vehicles) designed
to meet this standard and will be so certified when the standard is published.
This may well save extra expense at a later date if they buy the wrong
system.
Lou

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