Air conditioning compressor

Ben.Nakagawa · Post by **Ben.Nakagawa** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:27 pm

to me it's NOT looks ok. I had big smoke and some melted rubber like substance spraying in inside the engine room and mostly event on the back side of bonnet/hood. It was diagnosed it could be an accessory belt and both are changed. So, that was about month ago and I cleaned the black rubber as much as I can. So, I can see if that happens or if the is still some problem.

With new belt, I saw very small amount but still have this black thing under the bonnet. So I've looking very carefully and bet is OK, but find the front of air conditioner compressor is not sleight. Touching there has this sticky , a black staff that is exactly same as one I found under the bonnet.

Is this means the compressor is totally out or just a seal and refilling the refrigerant and so on?

AC is quite handy to tale hot are out and so on, but I can live without of that cost too much in that case maybe take whole things out...

Appreciate advise or even the photo of your air conditioning compressor will be helpful.

sprsta · Post by **sprsta** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:13 am

bugger i just had a clean out and binned my old ac compressor acouple of weeks ago

Ben.Nakagawa · Post by **Ben.Nakagawa** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:41 am

Thanks for reply.
I'm glad someone actually try to help me. Anyone has a pic?

Oh, the air-con seems to be run but it's very weak even the coolest setting compare to when I have got the car first time.

Trevor · Post by **Trevor** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:51 am

Kia ora Ben,

It would appear that your problem may be confined to the clutch, rather than the compressor proper. It is impossible to tell without being able to actually examine things. You will have to ask someone who knows their stuff, to physically check it for you.

Trevor.

Ben.Nakagawa · Post by **Ben.Nakagawa** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:07 am

Thanks, I may bring it to the garage.
A Clutch you mean the magnetic clutch inside the compressor?

My car is actually running fine but I'm bit worried and wondering about what is the black rubbery (more like tar) looking staff in front (inside) of the compressor pulley .

Any input is appreciated.

Trevor · Post by **Trevor** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:37 pm

Ben.Nakagawa wrote:Thanks, I may bring it to the garage.
A Clutch you mean the magnetic clutch inside the compressor?

My car is actually running fine but I'm bit worried and wondering about what is the black rubbery (more like tar) looking staff in front (inside) of the compressor pulley .

Any input is appreciated.

Greetings Ben,

Yes, I mean the magnetic clutch. The clutch could contain a friction material which could be slipping, overheating and giving off the stuff you describe.

Trevor.

Ben.Nakagawa · Post by **Ben.Nakagawa** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:41 pm

Trevor wrote: Greetings Ben,

Yes, I mean the magnetic clutch. The clutch could contain a friction material which could be slipping, overheating and giving off the stuff you describe.

Trevor.

Thanks a heap, Tervor.
I'll check with local garage and now I have something to tell them what to look for.

Ben

Ben.Nakagawa · Post by **Ben.Nakagawa** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:56 pm

After a little thinking. I think fixing compressor will be taking quite bit of work in time wise hence more $$ compare to replace it.
This is based on if I can find good working condition second hand compressor.

Not sure if this is good or bad idea...
My question in this post is that if I remove the accessory belt all together for the compressor (I do not have power steering but just an idle pulley. Is this save something or at least not making the existing equipment worth?

sprsta · Post by **sprsta** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:00 pm

if you wip the belt off it wont hurt anything im sure the cheapest option would be to find a second hand compressor than having one rebuilt most wreckers will give a warrenty with their parts

Ben.Nakagawa · Post by **Ben.Nakagawa** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:05 pm

Thanks,
I'll show it to the garage first and see what they say and most likely I'll take belt off until find a replacement compressor.

Thanks for all the advise so far.

WideOpenThrottle · Post by **WideOpenThrottle** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:45 pm

Hi Ben- i still have one if you need it
W.O.T.

Ben.Nakagawa · Post by **Ben.Nakagawa** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:52 pm

Thanks, Noted!

Ben.Nakagawa · Post by **Ben.Nakagawa** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:22 pm

I took another pic that more clearly show how it is not aligned from centre. and place at the back

Ben.Nakagawa · Post by **Ben.Nakagawa** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:07 pm

I found a compressor (S/H). Thanks Mark and please hold it little bit longer. I'll get back to you.

I have asked some question at garage regard to retrofit (R12->R134). It is possible but they will get back with some estimate.

Depends on that... I'm still not completely decide to keep the system or ditch them... It's handy when wet as it will clear-up the fog... If the cost is not too much different, I may keep it.

Those of who removed the Air conditioning what was the trigger that you to decide the removal? Obviously weight and track use may be a big factor, but is there any other reason?

Anthug · Post by **Anthug** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:59 pm

I removed mine to make turbo install easier. Dont miss it at all. Miss my
power steering though.

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poison · Post by **poison** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:41 pm

I LOVE LOVE LOVE my A/C sitting in the sun at the lights, it's a God
send.... my 2 cents.

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Ben.Nakagawa · Post by **Ben.Nakagawa** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:22 pm

poison wrote:I LOVE LOVE LOVE my A/C sitting in the sun at the lights, it's a God
send.... my 2 cents.

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That's exactly what I told to the service counter at garage when he asked me how much more are I need when the roof is down.

Has anyone done the conversion from R-12 to R134 gas?

sprsta · Post by **sprsta** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:00 pm

I also removed to make turbo install easier havent really missed it

Ben.Nakagawa · Post by **Ben.Nakagawa** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:51 pm

Got a quote.
To convert to R134 (retrofit, recharge and leak test) is $350.00 +GST.
On top of this, local garage will charge the labour to replace A/C comp (which is not functioning now) .

If I spirit the work in several phase like:
1. De-gassing ( I need to ask this to AC guy)
2. Replacing A/C comp I may be able to do this by myself but I might need more time to obtain correct oil, seals and leak testing and so on.
3. retrofit and either by myself or A/C guy.
4. leak testing by A/C guy before recharging.
5. recharge by A/C guy.

This will be fun but not so fun part is I have non operational car for few days when they can do whole things by one afternoon while I'm working at office.

It's not cheap! I'm so tempting to remove whole thing, but Like poison said, it's quite handy in many ways. I may try to fix just once. Next time it will be ... who knows.

I kind understand it getting the way when you converting to turbo and if that is my goal I'm not hesitate to remove it but this is my daily commuter and I want comfort over the power.

Thanks for all contribute! But it still be interesting what trigged you to remove those unit right? so keep coming!

Ben.Nakagawa · Post by **Ben.Nakagawa** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:37 pm

New AC comp in and recharged the gas. I think the AC guy converted to R134 gas but no sticker label that indicating the conversion.
I'll check later when invoice is issued.

It working now and very good!
Thanks Mark for providing compressor and everyone for providing idea and support.

brownie · Post by **brownie** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:29 pm

Sweet as ,Funny,I was thinking today how you got on with that pump.
Pleased to hear it worked out for you.

Ben.Nakagawa · Post by **Ben.Nakagawa** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:38 pm

Yes, I'm getting cool air from vent. Now, I'm not cooking in the cabin while stopping at the signal.

They gave me the old pump. I might take that apart and see what was wrong when I'm get a time.