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Mike Jolley

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Post by Mike Jolley » Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:09 pm

TUFFEN UP WHO NEEDS A FRONT PLATE?DRILL 2 SMALL HOLES IN YOUR FRONT
SPOILER(REAL MXERS HAVE ONE)SAY IT FELL OFF IF ASKED.THEN 2 DAYS LATER BY A
MIRACLE YOU CAN SHOW THE GRUMPY LOCAL OFFICER SOMEONE YOU DONT KNOW HANDED IT
TO YOU (IT MUST HAVE FALLEN OFF)
MIKE

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Post by zorruno » Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:53 pm

on 8/12/2004 5:09 p.m. Mike Jolley wrote:
TUFFEN UP WHO NEEDS A FRONT PLATE?DRILL 2 SMALL HOLES IN YOUR FRONT
SPOILER(REAL MXERS HAVE ONE)SAY IT FELL OFF IF ASKED.THEN 2 DAYS LATER
BY A MIRACLE YOU CAN SHOW THE GRUMPY LOCAL OFFICER SOMEONE YOU DONT KNOW
HANDED IT TO YOU (IT MUST HAVE FALLEN OFF)
MIKE
OW MY EARS

Yes, this works well... once. If you get the same officer two days
later, and then again the next week... (I never once mentioned the word
vendetta) you will lose the argument and have a nice fine to pay (or
possibly two).

Often nowadays they will give you the fine anyway, and state that you
can send a letter once you have rectified the 'issue' (I have sent a
photo of the plate remounted in the past). They'll generally waive the
fine. After that, if the same thing happens again - there ain't no way
you're getting off.

Also, if 50 people owning MX5s say their plates have fallen off, the
argument is slightly less valid... that is one major manufacturing
fault. Police (well most of the ones I know) aren't stupid.

zorruno
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Bill Rehm

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Post by Bill Rehm » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:35 pm

Thank God for zorruno, our list conscience and "revenue collecting
minimizer" :>)


Regards
Bill

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the polyfill acts to increase the volume that the speaker "sees".
Greater damping effect, or somethink...

http://www.google.com/search?q=polyfill ... 8&oe=utf-8

speakers typically have an ideal enclosed air volume which complements
the speakers' physical/electrical properties. IIRC the figure to look
for on the box is Vas.

hope that helps!

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Post by EricW » Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:16 pm

This discussion brings out the old cop in me.

I would not have accepted that excuse, and as a Prosecutor I would probably
not have waived the ticket, (and I was not too much of a bastard in those
days), but it is a simple open and shut matter, you have to have the proper
front plate, clearly visible and mounted upright, nothing else is legal.

How much tolerance the Police apply to this is a matter for them, but the
law itself gives none.

Having a swinging plate is also not legal, as it becomes obscured at speed.
It should not pass warrant on several counts; obscured plate, loose and
dangerous fitting, and so on. (It might swing backwards at speed, but it
will swing forward under heavy braking prior to colliding with a pedestrian.
If it is hinged other than at the top or bottom, it will, when swung down,
present a sharp edge forward at speed).

Now, before you label me a wowser, the above does not necessarily express my
opinion on the merits or otherwise of the law, I merely point out what the
law is.
You simply won't get away with it for very long.

If they are still available, the solution to the matter is quite simple. My
"94 has a factory fitted black plastic mounting above the radiator scoop,
which mounts the plate very satisfactorily and looks good, it does not
obstruct cooling either.

I can forward an email, with a photo attachment to anyone interested. It is
probably possible to use one as a pattern, to make them out of resin or
something similar.(I'm not going to offer mine as a pattern, as I don't know
how destructive the process might be, but Ross probably has at least one).

I hope that this is a calm and reasoned approach to the discussion

Regards

Eric

ghead

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Post by ghead » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:59 am

Hi - I may be missing the point here entirely, but why do a bunch of
people want to lose / conceal / otherwise get rid of their front plate? I
find a certain irony that while large numbers of people in this club have
personalised plates (at around $500 a pop), people want to make them
"disappear"... Are they that ugly? Or are you just not really happy with
the "tag" you have chosen as your attachment to your car?

If the whole point of a swinging front plate mount is to make your car
look better when being driven, who are you trying to impress? Given that
you're in the car, not outside it??

Maybe I'm just simple...

Graeme.


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This discussion brings out the old cop in me.

I would not have accepted that excuse, and as a Prosecutor I would
probably
not have waived the ticket, (and I was not too much of a bastard in those
days), but it is a simple open and shut matter, you have to have the
proper
front plate, clearly visible and mounted upright, nothing else is legal.

How much tolerance the Police apply to this is a matter for them, but the
law itself gives none.

Having a swinging plate is also not legal, as it becomes obscured at
speed.
It should not pass warrant on several counts; obscured plate, loose and
dangerous fitting, and so on. (It might swing backwards at speed, but it
will swing forward under heavy braking prior to colliding with a pedestrian.
If it is hinged other than at the top or bottom, it will, when swung down,

present a sharp edge forward at speed).

Now, before you label me a wowser, the above does not necessarily express my
opinion on the merits or otherwise of the law, I merely point out what the

law is.
You simply won't get away with it for very long.

If they are still available, the solution to the matter is quite simple.
My
"94 has a factory fitted black plastic mounting above the radiator scoop,
which mounts the plate very satisfactorily and looks good, it does not
obstruct cooling either.

I can forward an email, with a photo attachment to anyone interested. It
is
probably possible to use one as a pattern, to make them out of resin or
something similar.(I'm not going to offer mine as a pattern, as I don't know
how destructive the process might be, but Ross probably has at least one).

I hope that this is a calm and reasoned approach to the discussion

Regards

Eric

Thomas Beagle

number plate bracket

Post by Thomas Beagle » Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:10 am

Three possible reasons:

1. appearance
2. cooling efficiency
3. speed cameras

I vote for option 3. :-)

Thomas.


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Post by Bill Rehm » Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:55 am

#3 gets my vote too!


Regards
Bill

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Post by my2cta » Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:13 pm

Hope people aren't overlooking the fact that speed cameras photograph the
rears of cars as well as the fronts. Police with laser guns aren't affected
at all by an unreadable front plate (actually much more likely to ensure you
get fined, not cautioned, when he checks out the car after you get stopped
and he spots the hinged plate). Finally, the true joy of MX5 motoring, IMHO,
is on winding roads, and in this country the best winding roads are tortuous
enough that it is impossible to go over 100 kph on them and hence impossible
to get done for speeding, even while the grin and exhilaration factor is
100%. Even my daughter's Mk1 Escort 1100 is "fast" enough to break the open
road speed limit and get zapped by a camera. Speed in a straight line just
isn't that much of a big deal, is it?

Tim
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Graeme H

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Post by Graeme H » Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:23 pm

The little car just looks so much better without that (dare I say it?) ugly number stuck to the front.
You look at most of the promo pics from mazda and they show the car in the way it was designed...sans number plate.
Those american states that do without the front plate have got the right idea.

Graeme H

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Winding roads without the Wife..., Yip, that's what the MX5 was built
for. My favourite is Mountain rd off Scenic Drive in the Waitak's in
Auckland.

Adrian

Thomas Beagle

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Post by Thomas Beagle » Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:40 pm

Hi Tim,

I admit I have to agree with you on this one.

I used to joke that you can tell an MX5 driver because they accelerate
for the corners and slow down for the relatively boring straights.

My favourite road is the one from Masterton to Castlepoint, in the
Wairarapa. Beautiful scenery and lots of lovely corners.

Thomas.

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Post by my2cta » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:02 pm

Hi Thomas

My wife and I have both noticed that no matter how much we concentrate on
sticking to the speed limit on major roads that are known to be "well"
policed we always appear to be breaking it by the time we exit any sweeping
bend. Must be some sort of fault with the car...

Totally agree about that stretch of road, except last time I drove it I got
held up for miles by a person who wasn't kind enough to pull over and let me
past so I could enjoy the bends. Very frustrating. I loved the road between
Napier and Gisborne when we went up there on holiday last year too, although
it is a little lacking in overtaking places as well. The Rimutaka Hill Road
is good, too, if you time it for a quiet time of day (e.g. 5:00 AM in the
summer).

Tim

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Steve at Milford Autoelectrical (Porana Rd). Good guys.

Then tell us what the latest with his "11sec" monster is ... :D


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Post by dscotland » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:03 pm

if you're going fast enough even the main roads in NZ could be considered
winding!

I got a bit keen one weekend and took the missus on a supposedly scenic
drive from Port Waikato to Raglan with the intention of some fast but
legal cornering. Turns out it was gravel most of the way... thats the
last time I trust the accuracy of a travel atlas... Does anyone want to
know the sound that a lowered MX5 makes when the centre of a gravel road
is higher than the (pick one) front spoiler/intercooler/exhaust/rear diff?
I should invoice Transit NZ for the free levelling that I gave the road
:)

Duncan (mostly motorway driving - sigh)


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Hi Tim,

I admit I have to agree with you on this one.

I used to joke that you can tell an MX5 driver because they accelerate
for the corners and slow down for the relatively boring straights.

My favourite road is the one from Masterton to Castlepoint, in the
Wairarapa. Beautiful scenery and lots of lovely corners.

Thomas.

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Post by Doug Matheson » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:57 pm

Came over the Gentle Annie (Taihape to Napier) a month ago and that was
quite a drive. There is still 38km of unsealed road in the Kawekas but the
Mx5 handled that no probs.
With regards to plate surrounds, positioning etc, when I bought my MX5 a
year or so ago the plate was mounted on a bracket advertising the used car
dealer I bought the car from. It was attacthed to the bottom lip of the
opening. The bracket came off pretty quick as I wouldn't want to advertise
for any used car dealer. I bolted the plate directly to the bottom lip as
low as possible. I also bent the plate suround inwards right around about
15ml so narrow it down so it wouldn't protrude too low or too high into the
air intake area. I don't know if such tampering with a plate in this way is
legal but to be quite honest I don't really care From a distance you
wouldn't know and it looks quite tidy now

Doug

Voodoo

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Post by Voodoo » Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:28 pm

If 50 people owning MX-5s say their front plates have fallen of you've got a
MOVEMENT!

On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 17:53:09 +1300, zorruno wrote:


Also, if 50 people owning MX5s say their plates have fallen off, the
argument is slightly less valid... that is one major manufacturing
fault. Police (well most of the ones I know) aren't stupid.

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