My cold air induction system has failed my WOF.

poison · Post by **poison** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 2:38 pm

Hi All

I recently installed a home made cold air induction system based on the
Loch Stewart type. Photo's are available at;
http://www.mx5club.org.nz/downloads/gazza_cai_1.jpg
http://www.mx5club.org.nz/downloads/gazza_cai_2.jpg

But when I went to get my WOF at the local testing station they failed
the car as I've supposedly made it unsafe in a crash. This has to be
utter bollocks. I went to a Testing Station as I wanted my car checked
correctly but of course now regret it. I said can I remove the pipe and
bolt on a panel, they said "No, it has to be welded and certified before
they can issue a WOF".

Has anyone had one of these installed had WOF problems? OR does anyone
know someone authorised I can get to check and certify the
"modification" urgently as my car WOF expires tomorrow so after that I'm
screwed.

Cheers

Gazza

David & Judy Kerr · Post by **David & Judy Kerr** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:07 pm

Hello Gazza,

I have a Loch Stewart unit on my car and have had no issues with getting a
WOF from the Upper Hutt Testing Station. Ian Chapman also has the same unit
but I don't think he has had a WOF refused either but Ian may be able to
fill you in on that.

Dave.

poison · Post by **poison** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:31 pm

Thanks, I can't believe they failed it on this, but now the problem is, now
that it's written as a failure on record I (supposedly) need an inspection
from an approved certifier. I'm hoping someone in the club knows one in
Auckland, or has had theirs certified perhaps.

Cheers

Gazza

David & Judy Kerr · Post by **David & Judy Kerr** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:52 pm

Go to another inspection place as they can over ride your other one if they
think it is wrong. Ask the testing station to qualify their decision. I have
been to a testing station with my son's Suzuki car where they failed his seat
belt because it was very slightly frayed, I took it to another garage where
they had a look at it said bollicks there was nothing wrong with it, over road
the testing station WOF and issued me one.

Dave.

Greg · Post by **Greg** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:09 am

Hi, Gazza

Try Glynn at City Garage off Queen Street - he did my WOF & it was a
thorough going over - don't have any induction mods but he's pretty
reasonable. May pay to make a phone call first ??

Greg
1990 V Special

poison · Post by **poison** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:24 am

Thanks

I need to talk to a mechanic to see if they can override a testing stations
results or if I need an engineers certificate of compliance as this is what
the testing station said. There's an Asian garage here that will give your car
a WOF if it has paint, but I wanted a real safety check, next time I'll go
with the nice paint option

Cheers
Gazza

Voodoo · Post by **Voodoo** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:51 am

Gazza,

I reckon that part of the "firewall" is only to keep water out of the engine
bay, and to collect air for the ventilation system. Can't see it would have
much to do with strength. Lower down would be more important. You need an
expert's advice though.

MX5PWR · Post by **MX5PWR** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:17 am

spoke to Don at Autoway services and he said that is B----. The area you have put the hole is not structural and only there to hold the wipper motors. He said go to a Panel Beater and get them to write that it is not structural.

Nigel

poison · Post by **poison** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:47 pm

Hi Nigel

Thanks for that. Are you aware of any panel guy in the club
who may be Mazda friendly? Or someone who has done work on
any club cars.

I'll put something together for the magazine for you to edit
as you may so wish. I'll gove you a call in the near future
and pop over to look at you grill.

Cheers

Gazza

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Badcat · Post by **Badcat** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:03 pm

talk to greg at accent panel and paint

Accent Panel & Paint Ltd
15 East St Newton Auckland
0-9-377 4838

great guy -and will help out i'd say.
ken

Lou Girardin · Post by **Lou Girardin** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:29 pm

This is just more of the LTSA inspired bullshit. I had an firewall intake
on my 5 for years without being failed.
The problem is that, because the LTSA has no actual experience in vehicle
safety, they create loosely worded requirements which leave it wide open for
'jobsworths' to do their utmost to justify their existence.
Ask the testing outlet to state in writing how the modification will affect
the vehicle structure if they won't, appeal to the LTSA to do so.

patrick malone · Post by **patrick malone** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:51 am

yes tell me about it changing the subject slighty.

l been motorcyclist since l was 15 yrs old and
must admit l did fancy te mx5 when came out.
never dreamed l chould afford one.
but when l as 41 year old have to have restriced
licence, and kewfew just silly, l told ltsa what l
thought there. bullshit american chief.
oh can l say that ...
l guess riding on 2 wheels doesint count for much with
them.

l was going to do that mod myself, l always belived
in cool air was best, l thought a duct at fron to ram
air effect whould be the way to go or even, better to
go to the front inside guard.

by was l trying get my freind to make me some night
riders lights for the mouth part on my mx5 for a laugh
he electornics guy should be fun.

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