I believe one of the reasons tourists are cutting corners (even blind
ones) on country roads is the camber (originally designed into roads to
let the rainwater run off?). Going around a left hand bend you are fine
- feels kind of like the corners on American racing ovals. Right hand
bends however are another matter. It feels very uncomfortable leaning
"out" of the corner instead of "into" it. Off-roaders with their high
centre of gravity feel especially bad. And the faster the corner is
taken, the more uncomfy it feels. - So instinctively tourists cut those
right hand bends and end up in the middle of the road - or even
completely on the other side.
The reason that every single tourist to New Zealand seems to buy a ten
to fifteen year old imported Hilux and drives it on country roads in
Franklin I cannot explain. One thing is for sure: those drivers are
tourists. Kiwis are the bestest drivers in the world. Knowledgeable,
careful, considerate and very, very skilful. Because they all got taught
how to drive by the bestest driver in the world: Dad. Most tourist on
the other hand got taught to drive by "professional" (!) driving
"instructors" (haha!). No wonder "overseas" has one of the highest road
fatality rates in the world.
Greetings
Martin
(who is very, very sorry 'cause he is not born a Kiwi and therefore a
crap driver as well.)
And who lives in Franklin and feels kind of reponsible for all the
overseas crap drivers.
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Gee Martin,
Do I detect a little sarcasm in there?
C
Tourists cutting corners
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Michael & Kate Cooper
Tourists cutting corners
Sorry, Martin, wasn't digging foreigners in general, it's just that I've
noticed that people driving motorhomes and rental vehicles normally drive as
though they are the only people on the road. Possibly since they are on
holiday they are more relaxed and less alert; Possibly because they are
unfamiliar with their vehicles they drive out in the middle of the road as
they are scared of going off the side of the road; Possibly they are so
busy looking at the beautiful views they just forget to pull over and so
they stop in the middle of the road, half-way around the corner!
Yes, there are plenty of drivers all over the world, including NZ, who drive
inconsiderately, but I'm sure that you'll agree that those driving in a
foreign country should be extra vigilant about not upsetting other road
users with their inexperience, dallying and distractedness. Is there any
driving test required before you are allowed to rent a car in New Zealand on
a foreign license? I don't think so.
I'm sure there are heaps of people out there driving without a license -
maybe in the future it could be compulsory to show your license when
purchasing petrol? Hey, that could be really useful for catching
fine-dodgers/crims etc... Also, if you can't buy petrol because you've been
blacklisted, then there will be less cars on the road, more use of public
transport, better for environment ... yay!! Bummer if you're out of petrol
and you've lost your card, though. Expensive to connect petrol stations to
national database too.
noticed that people driving motorhomes and rental vehicles normally drive as
though they are the only people on the road. Possibly since they are on
holiday they are more relaxed and less alert; Possibly because they are
unfamiliar with their vehicles they drive out in the middle of the road as
they are scared of going off the side of the road; Possibly they are so
busy looking at the beautiful views they just forget to pull over and so
they stop in the middle of the road, half-way around the corner!
Yes, there are plenty of drivers all over the world, including NZ, who drive
inconsiderately, but I'm sure that you'll agree that those driving in a
foreign country should be extra vigilant about not upsetting other road
users with their inexperience, dallying and distractedness. Is there any
driving test required before you are allowed to rent a car in New Zealand on
a foreign license? I don't think so.
I'm sure there are heaps of people out there driving without a license -
maybe in the future it could be compulsory to show your license when
purchasing petrol? Hey, that could be really useful for catching
fine-dodgers/crims etc... Also, if you can't buy petrol because you've been
blacklisted, then there will be less cars on the road, more use of public
transport, better for environment ... yay!! Bummer if you're out of petrol
and you've lost your card, though. Expensive to connect petrol stations to
national database too.
Tourists cutting corners
It has always surprised me, how few accidents we actually have with tourists
driving on the wrong side of the road.
Those of you who have driven overseas will know how unnatural it feels to
drive on the right, particularly at intersections.
But, since we are talking tourists and locating this discussion in Franklin,
I am reminded of my one experience of this problem, in Pokeno. You may enjoy
it.
It was during the period that I was gainfully employed as an MOT Traffic Cop
and, on this particular Friday evening, I was called to an accident in
Pokeno. In those days the main road ran through the township, and there were
a number of shops and about three gas stations in the town.
For those of you who don't know Pokeno, allow me to explain that, as you
headed South into the town, you came around a sweeping left hand bend. On
your right was a Shell Service Station and on your left, on the inside of
the bend, a large green painted house, with a fence and an old fashioned
"Wicket" gate.
The accident had occured when a Canadian Tourist and his family, in a rented
Ford Falcon, had left the Shell Station heading south and, mistakenly,
proceeded on to the right hand side of the road. There they came into a
virtually head on collision with a large horse float (the truck type). Most
surprisingly, the only injury was to one of the daughters, who suffered a
fractured sternum.
However, the collision wiped out the steering of the truck, which veered to
the right, crossed the road, demolished the wicket gate and having travelled
up the pathway, knocked smartly on the front door of the house. Other than
giving the house a good shaking, it did no real damage.
But the shaking was the problem. The front door opened onto a passage and
the second room on the right was a pantry. Upon inspection of this room, it
became apparent to me that the "Lady of the House" was a bottler and
preserver of some considerable talent. Her specialities seemed to be
beetroot, tomatoes, jams and marmalades, with the odd chutney and relish
thrown in.
The difficulty was that these had all been lined up on shelves, shelves
which had been perpendicular to the line of impact.
Newton's Laws of Motion have seldom had a better demonstration!
The place looked like the set of one of Peter Jackson's earlier movies, an
unholy mixture of any glutinous food you can imagine dripped from the walls,
doors, ceiling, light fittings and shelves and ran down the far wall. The
entire contents of the pantry had flown it's width and impacted with
considerable force.
I am not one to laugh at other's misfortunes, but it remains one of the
funniest things I have ever seen, and to her credit, even the owner was
laughing, although in a high pitched nervous manner!
How she ever cleaned it up I don't know, but it remains one of my favourite
Traffic Cop memories
Eric
driving on the wrong side of the road.
Those of you who have driven overseas will know how unnatural it feels to
drive on the right, particularly at intersections.
But, since we are talking tourists and locating this discussion in Franklin,
I am reminded of my one experience of this problem, in Pokeno. You may enjoy
it.
It was during the period that I was gainfully employed as an MOT Traffic Cop
and, on this particular Friday evening, I was called to an accident in
Pokeno. In those days the main road ran through the township, and there were
a number of shops and about three gas stations in the town.
For those of you who don't know Pokeno, allow me to explain that, as you
headed South into the town, you came around a sweeping left hand bend. On
your right was a Shell Service Station and on your left, on the inside of
the bend, a large green painted house, with a fence and an old fashioned
"Wicket" gate.
The accident had occured when a Canadian Tourist and his family, in a rented
Ford Falcon, had left the Shell Station heading south and, mistakenly,
proceeded on to the right hand side of the road. There they came into a
virtually head on collision with a large horse float (the truck type). Most
surprisingly, the only injury was to one of the daughters, who suffered a
fractured sternum.
However, the collision wiped out the steering of the truck, which veered to
the right, crossed the road, demolished the wicket gate and having travelled
up the pathway, knocked smartly on the front door of the house. Other than
giving the house a good shaking, it did no real damage.
But the shaking was the problem. The front door opened onto a passage and
the second room on the right was a pantry. Upon inspection of this room, it
became apparent to me that the "Lady of the House" was a bottler and
preserver of some considerable talent. Her specialities seemed to be
beetroot, tomatoes, jams and marmalades, with the odd chutney and relish
thrown in.
The difficulty was that these had all been lined up on shelves, shelves
which had been perpendicular to the line of impact.
Newton's Laws of Motion have seldom had a better demonstration!
The place looked like the set of one of Peter Jackson's earlier movies, an
unholy mixture of any glutinous food you can imagine dripped from the walls,
doors, ceiling, light fittings and shelves and ran down the far wall. The
entire contents of the pantry had flown it's width and impacted with
considerable force.
I am not one to laugh at other's misfortunes, but it remains one of the
funniest things I have ever seen, and to her credit, even the owner was
laughing, although in a high pitched nervous manner!
How she ever cleaned it up I don't know, but it remains one of my favourite
Traffic Cop memories
Eric
Tourists cutting corners
"It has always surprised me, how few accidents we actually have with
tourists driving on the wrong side of the road."
Exactly, that is what I used to do all the time when I came back from
Ireland (where I lived at the time). Took my motorbike out and my
parents live in a single lane street, turned onto the major road onto
the left hand side of the road. Now in Belgium we drive on the right
hand side of the road... never I had an accident tho'.
Don't always blame the tourist guys, as a fresh-import in NZ I find
NZ'ers in general not the best drivers in the world. I say in
general, not all of them. Other thing is ...dare I say it?... Asian
drivers, apparently driving skills over there are not so similar to
NZ's or Europe's (again a generalisation here as there are good Asian
drivers). I drove over 100k in only 1 year in Europe a few years
back, and totalled up till now some 250,000kms on bikes and in cars
and so I have a fair bit of driving experience. And yes I had 2
accidents that I was involved in; 1 when I started to drive (after
2months) in my car, and I crashed a motorbike (partly my fault as I
was driving to fast; but the guy driving in the opposite direction
was actually driving in my lane...)
The Belgian dude living in ChCh
(I just bought a house here wooooohooooooo!)
WiM
Quoting Eric & Ann West <ericwest@internet.co.nz> on Wed, 8 Feb 2006
12:21:34 +1300:
It has always surprised me, how few accidents we
actually have with tourists
driving on the wrong side of the road.
Those of you who have driven overseas will know
how unnatural it feels to
drive on the right, particularly at intersections.
But, since we are talking tourists and locating
this discussion in Franklin,
I am reminded of my one experience of this
problem, in Pokeno. You may enjoy
it.
It was during the period that I was gainfully
employed as an MOT Traffic Cop
and, on this particular Friday evening, I was
called to an accident in
Pokeno. In those days the main road ran through
the township, and there were
a number of shops and about three gas stations in
the town.
For those of you who don't know Pokeno, allow me
to explain that, as you
headed South into the town, you came around a
sweeping left hand bend. On
your right was a Shell Service Station and on your
left, on the inside of
the bend, a large green painted house, with a
fence and an old fashioned
"Wicket" gate.
The accident had occured when a Canadian Tourist
and his family, in a rented
Ford Falcon, had left the Shell Station heading
south and, mistakenly,
proceeded on to the right hand side of the road.
There they came into a
virtually head on collision with a large horse
float (the truck type). Most
surprisingly, the only injury was to one of the
daughters, who suffered a
fractured sternum.
However, the collision wiped out the steering of
the truck, which veered to
the right, crossed the road, demolished the wicket
gate and having travelled
up the pathway, knocked smartly on the front door
of the house. Other than
giving the house a good shaking, it did no real
damage.
But the shaking was the problem. The front door
opened onto a passage and
the second room on the right was a pantry. Upon
inspection of this room, it
became apparent to me that the "Lady of the House"
was a bottler and
preserver of some considerable talent. Her
specialities seemed to be
beetroot, tomatoes, jams and marmalades, with the
odd chutney and relish
thrown in.
The difficulty was that these had all been lined
up on shelves, shelves
which had been perpendicular to the line of
impact.
Newton's Laws of Motion have seldom had a better
demonstration!
The place looked like the set of one of Peter
Jackson's earlier movies, an
unholy mixture of any glutinous food you can
imagine dripped from the walls,
doors, ceiling, light fittings and shelves and ran
down the far wall. The
entire contents of the pantry had flown it's width
and impacted with
considerable force.
I am not one to laugh at other's misfortunes, but
it remains one of the
funniest things I have ever seen, and to her
credit, even the owner was
laughing, although in a high pitched nervous
manner!
How she ever cleaned it up I don't know, but it
remains one of my favourite
Traffic Cop memories
Eric
tourists driving on the wrong side of the road."
Exactly, that is what I used to do all the time when I came back from
Ireland (where I lived at the time). Took my motorbike out and my
parents live in a single lane street, turned onto the major road onto
the left hand side of the road. Now in Belgium we drive on the right
hand side of the road... never I had an accident tho'.
Don't always blame the tourist guys, as a fresh-import in NZ I find
NZ'ers in general not the best drivers in the world. I say in
general, not all of them. Other thing is ...dare I say it?... Asian
drivers, apparently driving skills over there are not so similar to
NZ's or Europe's (again a generalisation here as there are good Asian
drivers). I drove over 100k in only 1 year in Europe a few years
back, and totalled up till now some 250,000kms on bikes and in cars
and so I have a fair bit of driving experience. And yes I had 2
accidents that I was involved in; 1 when I started to drive (after
2months) in my car, and I crashed a motorbike (partly my fault as I
was driving to fast; but the guy driving in the opposite direction
was actually driving in my lane...)
The Belgian dude living in ChCh
(I just bought a house here wooooohooooooo!)
WiM
Quoting Eric & Ann West <ericwest@internet.co.nz> on Wed, 8 Feb 2006
12:21:34 +1300:
It has always surprised me, how few accidents we
actually have with tourists
driving on the wrong side of the road.
Those of you who have driven overseas will know
how unnatural it feels to
drive on the right, particularly at intersections.
But, since we are talking tourists and locating
this discussion in Franklin,
I am reminded of my one experience of this
problem, in Pokeno. You may enjoy
it.
It was during the period that I was gainfully
employed as an MOT Traffic Cop
and, on this particular Friday evening, I was
called to an accident in
Pokeno. In those days the main road ran through
the township, and there were
a number of shops and about three gas stations in
the town.
For those of you who don't know Pokeno, allow me
to explain that, as you
headed South into the town, you came around a
sweeping left hand bend. On
your right was a Shell Service Station and on your
left, on the inside of
the bend, a large green painted house, with a
fence and an old fashioned
"Wicket" gate.
The accident had occured when a Canadian Tourist
and his family, in a rented
Ford Falcon, had left the Shell Station heading
south and, mistakenly,
proceeded on to the right hand side of the road.
There they came into a
virtually head on collision with a large horse
float (the truck type). Most
surprisingly, the only injury was to one of the
daughters, who suffered a
fractured sternum.
However, the collision wiped out the steering of
the truck, which veered to
the right, crossed the road, demolished the wicket
gate and having travelled
up the pathway, knocked smartly on the front door
of the house. Other than
giving the house a good shaking, it did no real
damage.
But the shaking was the problem. The front door
opened onto a passage and
the second room on the right was a pantry. Upon
inspection of this room, it
became apparent to me that the "Lady of the House"
was a bottler and
preserver of some considerable talent. Her
specialities seemed to be
beetroot, tomatoes, jams and marmalades, with the
odd chutney and relish
thrown in.
The difficulty was that these had all been lined
up on shelves, shelves
which had been perpendicular to the line of
impact.
Newton's Laws of Motion have seldom had a better
demonstration!
The place looked like the set of one of Peter
Jackson's earlier movies, an
unholy mixture of any glutinous food you can
imagine dripped from the walls,
doors, ceiling, light fittings and shelves and ran
down the far wall. The
entire contents of the pantry had flown it's width
and impacted with
considerable force.
I am not one to laugh at other's misfortunes, but
it remains one of the
funniest things I have ever seen, and to her
credit, even the owner was
laughing, although in a high pitched nervous
manner!
How she ever cleaned it up I don't know, but it
remains one of my favourite
Traffic Cop memories
Eric
WiM
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Oh my sides... thanks for the laugh mate 
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Interesting discussion here...but I do disagree with some points.
On a road I drive every day, people turning right onto that road are ALWAYS
cutting the corner and going way over the white line, where others may be
turning off right off of the other road and an accident may happen. I have
almost been in at least 5 accidents at that corner, not due to my sometimes
reckless driving, but rather because when I am turning right, people turning
right from the road I am at a t-section at always turn carelessly, not even
noticing if a car is there before they try to shortcut. It won't be long
before an accident will occur there. And I have never seen a rental car of a
tourist or an Asian driver cutting the corner, all NZ looking citizens in
their own cars.
I have to say that NZers are actually pretty bad drivers at times. People
become lazy with laws or don't learn them properly - I am personally
American so when I came over here I studied the road code hard to pass the
driving test (mind you I got 100%) but many people don't study that hard as
they think they know the rules, and still manage to get their license. I
know people say Asians are bad drivers, but most encounters with poor
drivers I have had have been NZer looking or very old ladies who shouldn't
be driving in the first place...don't get me started as I was so close to
having an accident with an old woman at a stop sign who just pulled out in
front of me, making me suddenly stop and honk at her, yet she didn't even
notice!!!
I have not read through this whole discussion, but have read snippets of
it...but actually young drivers in NZ (I believe) should not take their
defensive driving course IF they want to get their license earlier, after
driving on the roads for 6 months, they should learn to be safe drivers
BEFORE going onto the road and driving. Because SO many people don't even
care whether or not they have their full - they don't do the course as it
costs extra money, and they drive with passengers after hours on their
restricted or even learners. I am not saying that all young drivers are poor
drivers, I am one myself, and many people I know are not the best drivers,
or they do the above and break the law everyday. Go 'cruising' between
parties, carrying too many passengers, speeding etc. So really it is not
just tourists who are poor drivers at all.
Sorry if it seems I went a bit off topic, but from the cutting corners issue
comes the poor driving issue (which was raised about tourists being poor
drivers). Not all tourists drive on the other side of the road. And many
tourists who come over are more cautious about their driving than new
zealanders are - unsure of where they are going they drive slowish to see
road signs, getting used to being off of a plane and in a car, and having to
take notice of new road rules.
Jen
On 2/8/06, Ben Nakagawa <ben.nakagawa@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
Nina
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Interesting discussion here...but I do disagree with some points.
On a road I drive every day, people turning right onto that road are ALWAYS
cutting the corner and going way over the white line, where others may be
turning off right off of the other road and an accident may happen. I have
almost been in at least 5 accidents at that corner, not due to my sometimes
reckless driving, but rather because when I am turning right, people turning
right from the road I am at a t-section at always turn carelessly, not even
noticing if a car is there before they try to shortcut. It won't be long
before an accident will occur there. And I have never seen a rental car of a
tourist or an Asian driver cutting the corner, all NZ looking citizens in
their own cars.
I have to say that NZers are actually pretty bad drivers at times. People
become lazy with laws or don't learn them properly - I am personally
American so when I came over here I studied the road code hard to pass the
driving test (mind you I got 100%) but many people don't study that hard as
they think they know the rules, and still manage to get their license. I
know people say Asians are bad drivers, but most encounters with poor
drivers I have had have been NZer looking or very old ladies who shouldn't
be driving in the first place...don't get me started as I was so close to
having an accident with an old woman at a stop sign who just pulled out in
front of me, making me suddenly stop and honk at her, yet she didn't even
notice!!!
I have not read through this whole discussion, but have read snippets of
it...but actually young drivers in NZ (I believe) should not take their
defensive driving course IF they want to get their license earlier, after
driving on the roads for 6 months, they should learn to be safe drivers
BEFORE going onto the road and driving. Because SO many people don't even
care whether or not they have their full - they don't do the course as it
costs extra money, and they drive with passengers after hours on their
restricted or even learners. I am not saying that all young drivers are poor
drivers, I am one myself, and many people I know are not the best drivers,
or they do the above and break the law everyday. Go 'cruising' between
parties, carrying too many passengers, speeding etc. So really it is not
just tourists who are poor drivers at all.
Sorry if it seems I went a bit off topic, but from the cutting corners issue
comes the poor driving issue (which was raised about tourists being poor
drivers). Not all tourists drive on the other side of the road. And many
tourists who come over are more cautious about their driving than new
zealanders are - unsure of where they are going they drive slowish to see
road signs, getting used to being off of a plane and in a car, and having to
take notice of new road rules.
Jen
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I hated weddings All the grandmas would poke me saying Youre next They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals
-
bert wouda
Tourists cutting corners
Very interesting discussion indeed ...
My friend who do own a Rental company (campervans and cars etc) told me
last week that the majority of his customers are overseas people from all over
the world ( left and right hand drivers ) and the record of his overseas
customers accident rate is nearly " ZERO " . >> .. his words ... they
are very good and responsible ** people and drivers <<.
My own experience for 20 years + driving in NZ , and many years driving in
the continent ( Europe ) ... I don't feel always CONFY driving here ,
...it's really time for a " MAJOR OVERHAUL " in the NZ driver licence system
, and get those " Kindergarten kids " of the roads , till they get ready
for the real ( driving ** ) world .
BW
It's time , that a " real Politician" stands up with a backbone .
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My friend who do own a Rental company (campervans and cars etc) told me
last week that the majority of his customers are overseas people from all over
the world ( left and right hand drivers ) and the record of his overseas
customers accident rate is nearly " ZERO " . >> .. his words ... they
are very good and responsible ** people and drivers <<.
My own experience for 20 years + driving in NZ , and many years driving in
the continent ( Europe ) ... I don't feel always CONFY driving here ,
...it's really time for a " MAJOR OVERHAUL " in the NZ driver licence system
, and get those " Kindergarten kids " of the roads , till they get ready
for the real ( driving ** ) world .
BW
It's time , that a " real Politician" stands up with a backbone .
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Tourists cutting corners
You raise an interesting point regarding your driving licence/petrol
purchase. "maybe in the future it could be compulsory to show your license
when
purchasing petrol? "
A person who holds a firearms licence has been vetted by the police as being
'a fit & proper person', and you cannot buy ammunition for your firearms
from a vendor without showing your current valid licence. Nor can you
purchase a firearm without it. Transgress the firearms laws in any shape or
form & you lose the licence, & any firearms are generally removed from you.
Transgress a number of other laws, unrelated to firearms, particularly
involving violence & you run the serious risk of losing the licence & your
firearms. Extrapolate that to holding a drivers licence.
Now imagine the scenario where you will need to be vetted by the police as
being a fit & proper person to hold the driving licence. Yahoo! 40% of
drivers off the road already! You cannot buy/sell vehicles without the buyer
& seller both having to show the other valid licences. You cannot buy fuel
(ammunition) without showing the licence.
Perhaps I should not post this here, lest the policy gurus start thinking
there is something of merit here to be introduced.
But then the revenue to be had by the Gummint by way of reduced car sales,
fuel consumption, & fines generated by the car-morons (formerly boy-racers)
would not be realised. So it wouldn't work. Ooops forgot - the car-morons
don't have to pay their fines do they? Once they get into the four figures
the fines get wiped and they can start again
purchase. "maybe in the future it could be compulsory to show your license
when
purchasing petrol? "
A person who holds a firearms licence has been vetted by the police as being
'a fit & proper person', and you cannot buy ammunition for your firearms
from a vendor without showing your current valid licence. Nor can you
purchase a firearm without it. Transgress the firearms laws in any shape or
form & you lose the licence, & any firearms are generally removed from you.
Transgress a number of other laws, unrelated to firearms, particularly
involving violence & you run the serious risk of losing the licence & your
firearms. Extrapolate that to holding a drivers licence.
Now imagine the scenario where you will need to be vetted by the police as
being a fit & proper person to hold the driving licence. Yahoo! 40% of
drivers off the road already! You cannot buy/sell vehicles without the buyer
& seller both having to show the other valid licences. You cannot buy fuel
(ammunition) without showing the licence.
Perhaps I should not post this here, lest the policy gurus start thinking
there is something of merit here to be introduced.
But then the revenue to be had by the Gummint by way of reduced car sales,
fuel consumption, & fines generated by the car-morons (formerly boy-racers)
would not be realised. So it wouldn't work. Ooops forgot - the car-morons
don't have to pay their fines do they? Once they get into the four figures
the fines get wiped and they can start again
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