Brake Upgrade - NA

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Brake Upgrade - NA

Post by 12a MX5 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:13 pm

Was looking into a brake upgrade on my 1.6 (but not any more ,brap brap brap)na, MX5 Mart have a 1.8 brake upgrade kit $450, but as the rotor diameter only increases by 20mm, is it a noticable difference? or has any one used any RX7/other mazdas larger brakes? Just looking for a very cheap and affective option. Cheers
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Post by Euen » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:54 am

The 1.8 upgrade with good pads and good fluid is the most cost effective upgrade you can get. I am still using the 1.8 brakes for Targa events and track work and have not suffered any adverse effects apart from occasional lockups.
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Post by 12a MX5 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:24 pm

Sweet. cheers . Seen some nice brake kits on flyn miata though 8)
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Post by Gravelben » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:05 pm

I never had any complaints about even the standard 1.6 brake setup on trackdays, stopped hard every time with no fade. Don't even know what pads it had as I never wore them out! That was just standard power though, with more grunt and/or sticky tyres you might find their limits.

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Post by Habanero666 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:31 pm

Have you found the limits of the sport brakes?
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Post by Euen » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:20 pm

The sport brakes are actually different again to the standard 1.8 brakes and I think were only available on some models from about 2001 onwards. I haven't heard of anyone running them in NZ but it is possible some imports may have them fitted.

The advantage of going with the standard 1.8 brakes is that they don't require a change of master cylinder if you are upgrading from 1.6. The sport brakes used a different m/cyl with a different bore size.
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Post by Gravelben » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:53 pm

Habanero666 wrote:Have you found the limits of the sport brakes?
:lol:

Haven't worked them too hard yet to be honest, need to get a rollbar in it and get out on track to do that!

Raised it 20mm to get it off the bumpstops and its quite happy on bumpy roads now, no more lighting up 3rd gear on bumps while overtaking. ;)

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Post by last_resort14 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:40 am

Stock 1.6 brakes didn't do me very well at pukekohe,
3rd lap braking from over 200kmh into the hairpin and there was nothing. slowed it a bit but still ended up in the sand trap.
Since putting the 1.8 brakes in with some decent pads have done many laps without any issues.
I think the little bit extra size helps with not getting as heat soaked and decent pads make a really big difference

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Post by Ian » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:49 am

Ditto the 1.8 set up for the track............'proper' pads and race fluid and you will be well satisfied.
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Post by Gravelben » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:27 pm

last_resort14 wrote:Stock 1.6 brakes didn't do me very well at pukekohe,
3rd lap braking from over 200kmh into the hairpin and there was nothing. slowed it a bit but still ended up in the sand trap.
Since putting the 1.8 brakes in with some decent pads have done many laps without any issues.
I think the little bit extra size helps with not getting as heat soaked and decent pads make a really big difference
I'm guessing you have a fair bit more power than standard then, a standard Mk1 won't do 200km/h unless you drop it from a plane or something!

Even so for them to unexpectedly fail after 3 laps when they've just had the straight to cool them down makes me think you had some kind of problem rather than just them being too small. Bigger discs will definitely improve heat dissipation though I agree.

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Post by last_resort14 » Thu May 06, 2010 9:04 am

haha yea
not quite standard, i have turbo'd it.
my top speed was limited by gearing, I was on the rev limiter in 5th gear just before braking at puke,
Yea i know, i was skeptical about the difference it would make, but the conversion was so easy so i thought I'd give it a go. I think the pads I had originally were crap also.
http://www.mx5mart.co.nz/photos/martpho ... adekit.jpg
This pic from Ross' website shows the difference in pad size also, which probably helps too. remember the mx5 is still a much smaller car than most.
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Post by sprsta » Thu May 06, 2010 7:33 pm

im looking at piecing a set of wilwoods together at the moment
my new wheels make my brakes look too small

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Post by 12a MX5 » Fri May 07, 2010 5:49 pm

Looks like the 1.8 brakes are a good place to start. Any one got a set just lying around for cheap?
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Post by mazline » Thu May 13, 2010 5:14 pm

Wouldn't say lying around,But can sell you a setup to do the job,
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Post by sprsta » Thu May 13, 2010 7:40 pm

no they must be on a shelf

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Post by mazline » Fri May 14, 2010 5:24 pm

Still on a couple of front and rear subframe assemblys
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Post by sprsta » Sat May 15, 2010 8:51 am

ross (mx5mart) is bidding on them so must be a good deal

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Post by viscarious » Sat May 15, 2010 10:52 am

Well he sells his NA8 brake kit for $450, so at that price he will be making some good profit

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Post by mazline » Sat May 15, 2010 12:13 pm

That auction is only for the fronts though,Ross's deal is for fronts and rears,same as our deal,We also get $450.00.
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