Noob wheel paint query: All done

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Post by 4A-GE » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:54 pm

Nearly two months later I'm wondering if I should build a temporary carport garage thing, or try to appropriate one of those canvas carport things. As of saturday I'll have a couple weeks to get these things done, then new tyres and I'm away!

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Post by 4A-GE » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:08 pm

Right. Started on the feckers today. Pinched a drop sheet outta the shed, moved the dog's house, got the last of the grime off the wheels with super expensive degreaser and had at a pair of them with primer!

Pictured are coats 1 and 2 - Images from start to time of writing.

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Appropriate coffee vessel:

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Post by 4A-GE » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:34 pm

Testing the top coat - I have way too much silver, so why not?

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Post by MrGrey » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:05 pm

ooooh shiney!

nice job mate :)

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Post by McNuggetBandit » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:21 pm

Ill be starting my wheels tomorrow so lets see how they turn out haha
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Post by 4A-GE » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:00 pm

Your ones were really well done. I don't know what colour they were though.

If the rain fucks off for tomorrow I'm going to do the centre coat... Hohoh. Then weather permitting, I can go for new tyres quicker than I thought.

... But what do I do with the rest of the term break? :(

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Post by 4A-GE » Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:41 am

Have started on the top coat of metallic charcoal. Looks great, except it's gone all wrinkly in some places - Wtf is causing that?
Suspect I'll have to sand and do those bits again. Grr. :evil:

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Post by MrGrey » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:45 pm

4A-GE wrote:Have started on the top coat of metallic charcoal. Looks great, except it's gone all wrinkly in some places - Wtf is causing that?
Suspect I'll have to sand and do those bits again. Grr. :evil:
not enough drying time causes the orange peel effect.

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Post by NicF » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:00 pm

4A-GE wrote:Have started on the top coat of metallic charcoal. Looks great, except it's gone all wrinkly in some places - Wtf is causing that?
Suspect I'll have to sand and do those bits again. Grr. :evil:
Enamels go through a sensitive period in which they'll wrinkle if topcoated. Basically the first coat has skinned over but is still soft underneath, when you hit it with the second coat that skin absorbs the solvent in the second coat and expands, just like the skin on your hands in a hot bath. So it's either leaving them too long or not long enough between coats.

Yup, the only solution is to sand them and repaint if you want a better finish.
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Post by 4A-GE » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:28 pm

Eugh. God dammit. :evil: :evil: :evil: Paint stripper it is, seeing as sanding didn't work and the rest all peeled off.

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Post by 4A-GE » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:28 pm

Have had at it with paint stripper. Will be getting the wire wheel drill attachment onto it within the next week.
The up shot to this is I get to use power tools, and there is potential for my stepdad to use this as leverage to buy a compressor and or sandblaster.

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Post by NicF » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:45 pm

Some of the best money I ever spent was on a compressor. You'll do a way better job than rattle cans for painting too. Just be sure you get a big enough one.
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Post by warrior » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:51 pm

The trick with painting wheels is to clean them, then clean them again and clean them once more.
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Post by 4A-GE » Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:08 pm

Made sure they were clean as fuck this time. Really can't afford a compressor.

Now begins phase two. I've got better at masking too, oddly enough.

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Quite pleased with this primer. It's ... Almost self levelling. :lol:

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Lucky the tyres are disappearing asap I s'pose.

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Hoping for fine weather tomorrow. Should be able to prime them a wee bit more.

Now, the degreaser I have is pretty evil stuff and I'm afraid it will eat through the primer. What else can I clean them with before it's top coat time?

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Post by MrGrey » Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:29 pm

a wipe down with meths should do the trick :)

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Post by 4A-GE » Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:02 am

Excellent, I've got ballstons of that.

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Post by Toolbox » Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:16 am

All your cleaning, degreasing should have been done before you under coated, since you have undercoated the rims your next step is to sand the rims down LIGHTLY with 320 grit wet and dry or a finer grade so your topcoat
will adhere to your undercoat. Do make sure you get all the dust of before you topcoat. We used to use tack cloth for this. Not sure what they use today as I havn't been in the painting trade for about 20 years now.
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Post by 4A-GE » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:31 pm

Centre coat on; excitement building.

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Post by 4A-GE » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:35 pm

All masked up, ready to do the silver lip tomorrow. Lucky to have another set of hands. Right shocker this job was to do.

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Post by 4A-GE » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:54 pm

Nearly time to get this show on the road...

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Post by warrior » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:58 pm

Cant wait to see them
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Post by 4A-GE » Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:24 pm

New tyres tomorrow, so I'll post proper pictures once they're on eh.
Looking pretty bloody good I reckon. Happier than I thought I'd be.

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Post by 4A-GE » Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:27 pm

Edit: Probably cost 4x what I was expecting it to, but it's sure as shit cheaper than a new set of wheels!

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Post by warrior » Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:41 pm

Look great mate. Have you clear coated them? I would not put new tyres on until the paint has gone off
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Post by 4A-GE » Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:33 pm

Other voices more experienced than mine have suggested not to clearcoat, so I haven't.

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