Cant decide on coilovers

siren676 · Post by **siren676** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:21 pm

I'm wanting to get some coilivers soon for my mx5. I can't decide between getting some rokkor ones off ebay or waiting another month or so and getting some oz's (bc golds).

Any recommendations?

chris · Post by **chris** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:27 pm

OZ.

I am running them, Comfy as!

Furai · Post by **Furai** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:23 pm

What do you want to do with it is an important question.

Also I think I saw your car on East Coast bays road yesterday!

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:34 pm

HSD

Rokkors are better than racelands but still won't last long also if you don't have NB top hats you'll want to get some as rokkors, racelands and FM VMaxx coilovers don't come with top hats

Save your money get HSD or BC/Oz
If you building a track car get Ohlins

WideOpenThrottle · Post by **WideOpenThrottle** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:46 pm

Whats with the NB top-hats? I have Koni sport with NA top hats.What would i gain with NB ones?

chris · Post by **chris** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:58 pm

WideOpenThrottle wrote:Whats with the NB top-hats? I have Koni sport with NA top hats.What would i gain with NB ones?

Basically just MOAR LOW

WideOpenThrottle · Post by **WideOpenThrottle** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:59 pm

Cheers pretty happy with my low-life at the mo!

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:00 pm

WideOpenThrottle wrote:Whats with the NB top-hats? I have Koni sport with NA top hats.What would i gain with NB ones?

More Suspension travel at a lower ride height as they have a higher mounting point (You can get extended tophats made but they arent as comfortable as an OEM piece) and make for a pretty smooth ride

Mine will be for sale when I can afford coilovers so when my holiday pay comes

Angreal · Post by **Angreal** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:01 pm

WideOpenThrottle wrote:Whats with the NB top-hats? I have Koni sport with NA top hats.What would i gain with NB ones?

Much nicer to bottom out on and not sure about the following (gets you lower or more suspension travel)?

I'm sure there are cheaper options out there for track cars other than Ohlins. Keith seemed to do well with Teins.

sprsta · Post by **sprsta** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:01 pm

the spring seat is higher on the nb hats so your car will sit lower with the same shock travel

this is the na see the spring seat at the bottom

this is the nb, see how it doesnt have it

Donovan · Post by **Donovan** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:02 pm

Angreal wrote:
WideOpenThrottle wrote:Whats with the NB top-hats? I have Koni sport with NA top hats.What would i gain with NB ones?
Much nicer to bottom out on and not sure about the following (gets you lower or more suspension travel)?

I'm sure there are cheaper options out there for track cars other than Ohlins. Keith seemed to do well with Teins.

Wasn't he running Koni's, I'm running Teins in my car.

Angreal · Post by **Angreal** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:51 pm

Donovan wrote:
Angreal wrote:
WideOpenThrottle wrote:Whats with the NB top-hats? I have Koni sport with NA top hats.What would i gain with NB ones?
Much nicer to bottom out on and not sure about the following (gets you lower or more suspension travel)?

I'm sure there are cheaper options out there for track cars other than Ohlins. Keith seemed to do well with Teins.
Wasn't he running Koni's, I'm running Teins in my car.

Ah probably. They all mean suspension in Japanese right?

siren676 · Post by **siren676** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:48 pm

Furai wrote:What do you want to do with it is an important question.

Also I think I saw your car on East Coast bays road yesterday!

Mainly slamming it and drifting

Wasn't yesterday but i was out at a friends tyre shop opening on Saturday in Mairangi bay

Snapfrozen · Post by **Snapfrozen** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:38 pm

If you are going to be drifting, have you factored in what spring rates you want to run? If you just want to slam it, get the shittiest coilover on the market that will get you low. Anything under $1500 is not likely to be rebuildable and all will have a similar chance of blowing out a shock. Make sure you are using them within their recommended tolerances and you shouldnt have any surprises come warranty time

Furai · Post by **Furai** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:26 pm

siren676 wrote:
Furai wrote:What do you want to do with it is an important question.

Also I think I saw your car on East Coast bays road yesterday!
Mainly slamming it and drifting

Wasn't yesterday but i was out at a friends tyre shop opening on Saturday in Mairangi bay

I wont be slamming but I will be Drifting, I did a lot of research before deciding on my setup. I will be running 8/6Kg which is what most guys Drifting Roadsters are running slammed or not.

If you want coilovers or if I was going coilovers, I would go with either a well known brand from Japan with few KMs or a brand that can be rebuilt in NZ. I wouldnt bother with cheap coils personally. Might be nothing wrong with them for normal use but from watching others I learnt that do it once do it right is always the best way to go. You spend the same amount in the end generally if you buy cheap something fails or something needs changing. Go with good stuff and it lasts forever.

siren676 · Post by **siren676** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:28 pm

Never considered what rates to run for drifting, it was ummm... interesting to drift on stock spring rates

I think ive got my meanings messed up about how low i want it, i'd be happy with 90-100mm to chassis rails (think CR classes it as moderately slammed)

Bwarp · Post by **Bwarp** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:41 pm

blimey i hate CR.net and their crap about 'mod slammed' and 'slammed'

etc. they whine and bitch so much about it.

/rage

Furai · Post by **Furai** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:32 pm

Bwarp wrote:blimey i hate CR.net and their crap about 'mod slammed' and 'slammed'

etc. they whine and bitch so much about it.

/rage

This.

Stock springs are fun to drift on, oh the weight shift!

siren676 · Post by **siren676** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:43 pm

in that case get some coilovers with soft springs and throw the weight around

Was going to go with some MRP custom ones as they were the same price as the oz's but barry's discontinued his na/nb ones

Mr. Shine · Post by **Mr. Shine** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:43 pm

Will vouch for HSD.

siren676 · Post by **siren676** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:48 pm

What sort of pricing are the hsd ones?

brownie · Post by **brownie** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:53 pm

I,ve still got the ACRE set at work,and some TEINS,both from NB's
PM me at work if interested to have a look.I thought Keith had a set to sell as well

Furai · Post by **Furai** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:07 am

Get the Teins.

siren676 · Post by **siren676** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:21 am

Will depend which model teins they are, also pricing. I like the look of the acre's though

Snapfrozen · Post by **Snapfrozen** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:33 am

siren676 wrote:Never considered what rates to run for drifting, it was ummm... interesting to drift on stock spring rates
I think ive got my meanings messed up about how low i want it, i'd be happy with 90-100mm to chassis rails (think CR classes it as moderately slammed)

Im 90mm front and 100mm rear. Thats the lowest I can go without modifying my springs. The shocks are good for lower, would need coilover springs and new perches.

Bilsteins

Rebuildable, amazing brand rep, revalvable, and cheaper than coilovers. Hit up Autolign

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